Don't like Blue Mage? Here is how to convince SE to change it...

People seem to be a bit too obsessed with blue mage. It really has 2 main options for things like raids.

1: It's overpowered as hell because of what they can learn and no raid group would ever not want one since they just break the raid.

2: It's useless since its abilities don't even work on the bosses.

The way they have BLU coming in is really the only viable way while keeping the job identity intact. I for one, intend to play it. Sounds like a fun side activity. If it were a regular job I'd play it as much as I play other jobs that aren't WHM these days: not at all.

I will not play blue and I will avoid it like the plague I won't even bother unlocking it.

I do like the concept and I'll be playing it. Weither its the game changer FFXIV needs or not I don't know. I'm reserving my full opinion when I see it for myself.

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Originally Posted by Acidblood

Serious question: Would you prefer that Blue Mage was never implmented? That Yoshi P simply said 'too hard' and left it at that?
(And before you answer 'I would prefer they implemented it as a normal job', assume that they wouldn't; that it's this version of Blue Mage or nothing at all, ever).

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So, why should we assume that, when the ultimatum is utterly false?

One's options are not limited to solely "endorse everything you hate about something you pay for" or "stop paying for it".
Nor are our options here solely "get a butchered BLU" or "don't get BLU at all".

Why are people so happy to jump onto these fallacies? Is it just so they can take a side in pinning vaguely spun ideologies against each other, despite the issue having nothing to do with ideology and everything to do with the details and context of implementation?

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Originally Posted by Adeacia

People seem to be a bit too obsessed with blue mage. It really has 2 main options for things like raids.

1: It's overpowered as hell because of what they can learn and no raid group would ever not want one since they just break the raid.

2: It's useless since its abilities don't even work on the bosses.

The way they have BLU coming in is really the only viable way while keeping the job identity intact. I for one, intend to play it. Sounds like a fun side activity. If it were a regular job I'd play it as much as I play other jobs that aren't WHM these days: not at all.

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There's a simple and precedented solution for that, resistance modifiers -- or, more elegantly, potency-percentile conversions. The stronger the mob, the less they're affected by a Slow, such that the damage reduced from a trash mob and a boss are very similar despite their varying power levels. The stronger the mob, the lower the chance of their dying from Death given missing %HP (bosses immune); the less damage taken from missing %HP on Pumpkin Drop; the less Blind reduces percentile accuracy (or, simply, it reduces Accuracy by a flat amount, which bosses have a hell of a lot more of); etc., etc.

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Originally Posted by Rosentretter

Just do it, no one will miss you anyway.

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Ah yes the cavalier "go ahead and quit!" attitude that I've found so parochial and charming in the World of Warcraft and League of Legends community.

Ironically they're usually juxtaposed next to posts of people bemoaning empty friendlist and dying guilds.

Games like FF do not die from one poor decision (unless, let us be honest, it's truly a massive failure on a Biblical scale) but rather they suffer from death by a thousand cuts.

Today the people who wanted Blue as a full job quit. Don't miss them? Fine. Next time it's the people who didn't want "Beasmaster" or "Puppeter" as a limited class who decide to leave. Maybe Square decides to stop releasing "full" classes in future expansions since the creative space is just getting so gosh-darn crowded they can't figure out how to implement them and hey it's so much easier and faster to do unbalanced, noncurated, limited classes.

I would rather encourage the creators to make solid foundational design decisions. There is nothing wrong with wanting to add more solo content to the game. There's nothing wrong with having a unique tier of content for Blue Mage (I wish they would add it for every class, they could reward unique glamours, mounts, or titles). What is wrong is the false dichotomy that unique solo content has to be made to the exclusion of the rest of the game. There are ways to have both. I left WoW because of Blizzard's malaise and sheer laziness over Battle for Azeroth. Believe me when I say one does not want the same disease taking root here.

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Originally Posted by Acidblood

I am looking forward to Blue Mage and its content, and genuinely believe (from what they have shown) that it will be fun to play.

I do however completely agree with the OP; if Blue Mage turns out to be flawed (as with SB WHM / MCH / DRK, Diadem, Eureka, etc.) then I will provide my informed feedback and, depending on how ‘bad’ it is, avoid playing the job / content until such time as it is updated to be more enjoyable (which may be never).



Serious question: Would you prefer that Blue Mage was never implmented? That Yoshi P simply said 'too hard' and left it at that?
(And before you answer 'I would prefer they implemented it as a normal job', assume that they wouldn't; that it's this version of Blue Mage or nothing at all, ever).

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YES. It's like having a fast car, but never taking it out for a drive or being relegated to driving to the grocery store. There's no point.

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Originally Posted by Bernhardt

I will not be continuing my subscription because of this decision. I do not want to pay for SE to test out a job that I believe should be able to do what all the other jobs can do. It's not worth testing something that may never be implemented.

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It's being implemented. There isn't an "if".

It's going to breathe a lot of life into the overworld, into older solo content, and into just downtime from other things when you don't necessarily want to go do other solo content.

I'm looking forward to BLU. It seems like it'll be a lot of fun.

It won't appeal to everybody, of course, but that is the case for a lot of things in FFXIV. I, personally, find myself glad that we're getting something that isn't tied to regular game-play for once.

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Originally Posted by Rosentretter

Good luck out there!

People complain about absolutely everything. They want BLU, they want different content, they want open world activity, guess what, this gives all those 3 things, and now they don't want it. Make up your minds boys! You're free to unsub from the game, but you don't need to come to the forums to whine about it. Just do it, no one will miss you anyway.

I can't wait to play as BLU!

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I'm not doing it for you, I don't post much other than to air my grievances about the game. I'm doing it to inform the SE employee in charge of gauging community responses to this announcement about Blue Mage and any other future job that might meet the same fate, that I won't be paying to playtest a job for them that doesn't even have a guarantee of being fully implemented into the game. That's completely asinine.

Taking my money elsewhere, and I won't be missing the community either.

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Originally Posted by Bernhardt

I will not be continuing my subscription because of this decision.

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To be fair, if you are going to discontinue your sub because of this one thing (BLU) then you probably didn't have much investment in the game to begin with. Stopping sub because of the incoming datacentre moves, yeah I could understand some players doing that, but definitely not for this.