First Time bonus - abandon?

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Originally Posted by Menriq

I don't want to speak for OP, but I read this as "If I'm the first-time player, and I leave, does the rest of the group get the bonus?".

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No they don't...as far as I know.

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Originally Posted by kidalutz

Short answer: No they do not get the bonus if the First Timer leaves.

Long Answer:WTF has come over the community? I remember not that long ago people actually going out of thier way to be supportive and helpful of first timers? Is it because we got an influx of players form other MMOs? if So keep that kind of behavior to yourselves and spend a long time in introspection.

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Be careful about blaming other mmos. In fact, this community is one of the most toxic I've ever seen and that's even accounting for WoW at the height of its popularity circa Lich King. There's nothing special about this community that makes it the 'nice' one and all the bad people coming in are from 'other mmos'. Some of the WORST players here are the ones you click on and they have all jobs at cap. That's not someone from some other mmo.

That's a FFXIV native. Those are the players that need to chill out already.

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Originally Posted by Akamadoshi

"The keeper of the Big" I think? Manderville/Hilbrand trial. :( So cutscenes were so nice... I miss out.

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Seams odd, thats a trial as long as someone is in cs the game does not allow anyone to move.

Edit; could be the 2nd part nvm. Does the new "move to fight" work in trials as well or just raid?

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Originally Posted by kidalutz

WTF has come over the community? I remember not that long ago people actually going out of thier way to be supportive and helpful of first timers? Is it because we got an influx of players form other MMOs? if So keep that kind of behavior to yourselves and spend a long time in introspection.

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Gamers are more impatient than ever before. No one has "time" for anything anymore.

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Originally Posted by Akamadoshi

if there is 1(or more, but importantly 1) is new and thus have cutscene, making party watch it to not leave the new player out, definitely puts an end to rude, impatient people and gives new players less paranoid feeling of being forced to skip.

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Think about what you are asking: you are demanding that one group of people be forced into doing something...to prevent them from forcing another group of people into doing something. Shifting the force isn’t the answer to your predicament. Not everyone is impatient or a jerk; there are plenty of players that have zero issues with newbies watching cutscenes for things. You ran into a bad bunch; no need to punish everyone else because of a few.

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Originally Posted by kidalutz

Short answer: No they do not get the bonus if the First Timer leaves.

Long Answer:WTF has come over the community? I remember not that long ago people actually going out of thier way to be supportive and helpful of first timers? Is it because we got an influx of players form other MMOs? if So keep that kind of behavior to yourselves and spend a long time in introspection.

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It's literally always been an issue in the same minute volume then as it is now.

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Originally Posted by Akamadoshi

Actually, this idea of mine would prevent. Imagine this: You are in a party of 8 man, one of them are new, in my case it was a mandervile - hillibrand cutscene! So of course it's a blast. But let us remain general; the cutscenes of dungeons/trials/raid aren't long, so basically my idea came to; if there is 1(or more, but importantly 1) is new and thus have cutscene, making party watch it to not leave the new player out, definitely puts an end to rude, impatient people and gives new players less paranoid feeling of being forced to skip. But this I recommend, if a player is new (everyone gets a bonus from the player, why not have consideration)? It is not meant as punishment, but resolve in my idea.

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I'll be honest, right now I do Castrum and Praetorium outside of roulette because people ask me to, just because they need it for MSQ. I do the actual MSQ roulette maybe once a week at best.

If they implemented your suggestion exactly, I would unsubscribe immediately. Also as per your suggestion, I'd have to watch those cutscenes for all the new content too. I don't even watch that junk on my own time.

I can guarantee, anybody can, if you just look at the immense negative backlash from all ffxiv communities in regards to MSQ roulette, that 'newbie bashing' would become the norm; and I wouldn't blame them. That's definitely one of the worst suggestions I have ever read in regards to this game. Want to stop newbie bashing? First of all, it's not even a relevant problem. 1/100 cases isn't a pandemic. Second, stop putting cutscenes in instances. Put them before you enter and after. They disrupt the gameplay flow.

Also - We don't need your bonus. We have faster, focused ways of generating xp, tomestones and even 2nd Chance Points.

Ultimately it's this - Why is your time any more important than mine? Our subs are the same price. So why do you dictate that I have to sit around and do nothing for 2 minutes because you want to watch a cutscene? The better idea is to just place cutscenes in solo play only.

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Originally Posted by Luin

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But it is not about the MSQ instance, it is about Keeper of the Big Bridge, a trial.

Normally the devs solved it with capturing everyone within a circle at the start until everyone saw the CS and turning off the kick function for some minutes after the start. I don't know if there is a second CS where Gilgamesh reach the last part of the bridge.

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Originally Posted by Felis

But it is not about the MSQ instance, it is about Keeper of the Big Bridge, a trial.

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You're missing the point, OP is asking for mandatory cutscenes in all instances whenever there's a bonus.

Yes even if the person with the first time bonus leaves, it's still granted to the remaining players upon completion.

I do really wish SE to implement more things to incentive veteran to help new players.
I do like very much to help new players, but it's so hard sometimes. We need to keep disbanding the party for every solo duty of MSQ, could we just watch the duty? It would be good to help even more.