Another "Maiming" class?

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Originally Posted by wereotter

Except that's not longer quite the case. Dragoons now have the same magic defense as other melee jobs, but still higher physical defense. Honestly I feel like they could just combine their gear sets with Samurai and Monk at this point and eliminate maiming as a set entirely.

Also I was surprised that Red Mage didn't share scouting gear with Ninja as DEX could easily have been a primary stat for that job if it were designed more melee heavy than caster heavy.

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If they just keep Dexterity and Strength as meaningless retitles of the same Attack Power stat, they could as easily make all the melee DPS share gear sets, same as the ranged DPS.

Honestly, though, when they released SAM I figured they'd be making that the new Maiming class, and that they might just remerge NIN and MNK, with the gear simply reading "Strength" when worn on Monk and "Dexterity" when worn on NIN, as in many other MMOs with power stats that differ only in name.

Why they can't just rebrand it as attack power I'll never know

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Originally Posted by Dzian

Right side nin brd mch usually share aiming accessories.

To be honest though I've always wished there was more individual gear. And less generic shared gear....

Gives warriors gear that's warrior themed and dark gear that's dark themed. Rather than just one set that's not really themed for any of them.

Same with everything else. Even striking now. The 320 genta striking set looks great for Sam but totally doesn't fit a monk thematically.

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To be honest, none of the Genta/Genji gear is all too thematic.

*sniffles* The Dancer that could have been...

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Originally Posted by EllieShadeflare

They could have, if the class was named Spell Fencer. But it's Red Mage, so it's a caster.

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Red Mage, in my opinion, doesn't use its rapier enough as it's TOO caster centered. I feel like while the job is fun as-is, I would have liked to see it be more of a melee caster job using DEX as a main stat and having its magic scale of it's DEX (just like magic attacks performed by ninja)

Mage doesn't mean caster exclusively. People are already talking about Blue Mage being a tank....

i always thought sam would have fit well as a maiming class

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Originally Posted by wereotter

Red Mage, in my opinion, doesn't use its rapier enough as it's TOO caster centered. I feel like while the job is fun as-is, I would have liked to see it be more of a melee caster job using DEX as a main stat and having its magic scale of it's DEX (just like magic attacks performed by ninja)

Mage doesn't mean caster exclusively. People are already talking about Blue Mage being a tank....

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Well, it might help to talk about Job history because "Blue Mage being a tank" is simultaneously a good point but also one with mixed context.

Red Mage in its history was always capable of decent melee capabilities, often having the ability to wield swords and wearing decent armour. However, they've never had ENOUGH of a focus on melee beyond perhaps FFXI, but even then another job did its role of "magic melee fighter" (Rune Fencer) to a better degree. Red Mage has generally just been a Jack of All Trades, Master of None, with its major emphasis being decently armoured, decently deadly with magic and decently good at healing. Its ability to melee was always an afterthought. As a result, its ability to use a sword isn't entirely forgotten, nor is its healing but neither are entirely major parts of the Red Mage identity.

Blue Mage, however... is weird, even among mages. Its "magic" are enemy skills, and throughout its history, Blue Mage has often had to take said spells to the face to learn them. In the case of FFXIV, it'd make sense for them to be a tank, due to their history of having to be struck and even FFV, their origin game and codifier, had them wielding shields and relatively durable through HP. Heck, some of the most notable Blue Magic spells include the support spell Mighty Guard (which is currently a Limit Break for tanks, I might add), the self heal Vampire, Strago's Rippler that exchanges status effects with enemies, Auto-Life, and even more in FFXI. It wouldn't be that hard to tool Blue Mage into a tank using their identity of "get hit get magic".

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Originally Posted by Ordoric

i always thought sam would have fit well as a maiming class

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In some circumstances, yes. However, it seems this incarnation of the Samurai is meant to more heavily resemble a Ronin (like Samurai Jack) rather than the heavily armored Samurai we usually see.

Another potential candidate for both sets: Beastmaster! In XI, BST could use several heavy armor pieces that DRG could, plus several light armor pieces.

One possible reason they're keeping DRG and NIN separate on the left side for now is that it makes gear slightly easier to design. It's hard to make generic shared gear that looks appropriate for SAM/MNK and DRG at the same time, since the former are more light armoured strikers while the dragoon aesthetic is more heavy armoured. Same for ninja vs ranged gear.

You'd think that they would jump at the chance to condense the gear categories a little more since it would give them less work to do. That they haven't means that they probably do care about aesthetic differentiation a little bit. Makes it more likely that they'll pick future jobs based on who can share gear with the scouting and maiming categories too, just to even things out a bit.

If Blue Mage is DPS rather than Tank, then I think it would fit for Maiming gear, if it needed more magic defense they can put that on their weapon, whatever that may be.

Foebreaker/Breaker from FFXII would also fit the Maiming gear well since their job was to weaken the opponent with their break abilities, or 'maim' them.