Future expansion FFXI (not serious)

FFXIV needs more open world content (Fates and Hunts...especially Fates...are trash). The game needs more overworld threatening monsters to add more life to the zones and increase the danger and the rewarding feeling of exploration.

As it stands, since ARR began, the open world is dry, instanced, boring, bland and uninteresting. It's also EMPTY. FFXI's areas had more feeling and better design (a game made in 2002-2003 for ***k sake), the enemies were threatening in some places (which made spells like sneak and invisible so amazing). The overworld had more....idk....LIFE.

FFXIV will never have that feeling cause we have a producer who's a WoW fanboy.

/2 cents

disagree on the 24-man dungeons. Maximum story if you include them all. Dynamis-Bastok, Dynamis-San D' Oria, Dynamis-Windhurst, Dynamis-Beaudicine Glacier, and lastly, Dynamis-xarcabard. Those would probably work best as 8-man dungeons. I'd be mixing ROTZ and COP but sky and sea are 2 of the 24-man dungeons. Also, you are forgetting something: expansion of Eureka to include prominent NM's from FFXI. I could see a expansion so we have an abyessia region with NM's that drop things like Carbuncle's mitts and yin-yang robe.
Dungeons:
I dunno what would be the first but I believe I know the order for leveling. Valkyrun dunes? Quifim island? yhutunga jungle? Crawler's nest? a TOAU area for the final 1?
I'd like to see the following: depending on your start city, you show up at Bastok, San D' Oria, or Windhurst. Then Bastok and San D' Oria link to a larger map which combines the two areas (separated by a flying region that is vast) into one big map with the dunes as a dungeon OR open-world area. The middle town is Jueno (which would function like Rhalgar's Reach does now) which links Kazham, the starting cities and has the qufim dungeon. Airship access is granted after getting, say halfway through the MSQ. Linking Jueno to Bastok and San D' Oria is another combined map of the region (probably a little condensed for trips to Jueno) leading to Jueno for those 2 cities. Windhurst has access to Sarubata fields, a higher level area but consists of that entire region (access to the others is provided via a teleport, only coming back near the end of the MSQ.). Other zones? I'd like to cherry pick and say Sanctuary of zi'tah at least. The expansion should be massive. End game dungeons? Take your pick-you got the entirety of the FFXI game to choose what should be tome dungeons.

Deep Dungeon should be TOAU area where you have 30 minutes to get thru as many floors as possible (I forget the name of the area but time limit isn't 30 min for deep dungeon). There may be 2 of these so 1 is deep dungeon other aquapolous expansion
Aquapolous maybe should be the deep dungeon area instead and deep dungeon another area.

I realize this is not just the vanilla game and is including more areas but I feel it would be a good idea to cherry pick and use the precomposed music (maybe remaster them?) for the zones to reduce time spent on composistion.

Housing area:
Ru'Lude Gardens in Jueno (complete with the original music for the area. The embassies are large plots.). Apartments have the mog home theme to start.

Bring back Den of Rancor, Boya Tree, and Valkrum Noobs (dunes).

I'd really see the end of RotZ plotline as a good 24-man raid.

1st part: Qu'fim Island and climbing up the Delkfutt's Tower with Kam'lanaut as the last boss.
2nd part: Run through Sanctuary of Zi'tah and Ro'maeve with mechanics involving the Full Moon fountain and some FFXI golem boss.
3rd part: Ru'Aun and Ru'Avitau. The Ark Angels, Eald'narche, Kirin.

Then again, all theses zones are super interesting on their own and I feel like it'd be a crime if they were only accessible as instanced zones. :P

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Originally Posted by Unabaro

Then again, all theses zones are super interesting on their own and I feel like it'd be a crime if they were only accessible as instanced zones. :P

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This part is what makes this 'mind game' so interesting.
You're 100% correct.
It's a crime to the original source, to butcher it so much, to make it fit FF14s limitations, and yet, so mesmerizing to think about.


So far, the most commonly suggested zones have been Valkrum Dunes, Selbina, Crawlers Nest, and Sky. (Outside of just here as well.)
I'm kind of surprised no other mentions of areas where people leveled nearly as much as these too.

No matter how it would be done, it would end up feeling lacking, and in turn, would of course be a waste of time. (Probably why the other thread suggested it ONLY be 24 man raids visiting FF11, rather than an expansion, as it wouldnt feel like its 'not enough', but rather, just a nod at FF11.)

Completely off-topic here, but I'd kill for a re-release of FFXI that offered modern graphics, a modern UI, jumping, and the AoE combat indicators from FFXIV. Don't touch another damned thing about it, either. I'd go back in a heartbeat.

More on-topic, I'd like to see the boat trips added back in, and the airships, complete with arrival / departure times that you have to wait for, and pirates, and fishing opportunities. And Sea Horrors that slaughter unprepared low-level players.

As someone who played FF11 religiously between 2003-2011 I'd love this for nostalic reasons but i would rather SE try making something new and unique (not that we seen much of that since ARR)

I forgot the FF14 formula is to have 1-2 Aetheryte Crystals at Camps on every map. Something that FFXI didn't quite do.
So I guess the zones would have to go through quite a bit more renovation, or detouring, in order to introduce camps/small settlements, that werent actually in FFXI.

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Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon

I forgot the FF14 formula is to have 1-2 Aetheryte Crystals at Camps on every map. Something that FFXI didn't quite do.
So I guess the zones would have to go through quite a bit more renovation, or detouring, in order to introduce camps/small settlements, that werent actually in FFXI.

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Not as much as you'd think at first glance. There were always points of interest besides outposts in each zone but they lacked presence of people to further cement the emptiness each zone had. And only a handful of zones in HW had two per map with SB being the one to make it an apparent design rule (did people complain about having to fly around HW's maps? I don't remember)

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Originally Posted by Rasikko

I would only make the jump, if the director of XI has full control. Otherwise, no, just NO.

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Lol, he had full control once, and look at what he did.