What is Novice Network chat REALLY for?

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Originally Posted by Rongway

If the channel regularly derails from the scope of "help channel", and the mentors go on for a while without any novicers or returners asking questions, you could say something like

"Any new adventurers or returners, if you have any questions please feel free to ask and don't feel like you're interrupting. This channel exists so we can answer your questions about the game."

Not directed at anybody who is participating in the occupying conversation, it's a gentle (and sometimes necessary) reminder of why we're (supposed to be) there without pointing fingers and telling everyone to shut up.

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Again, that's fair, I just wanted to know where the line was for inappropriate things. I don't really like the idea of a brand new player joining and seeing the phrase "[player] owns a necro vore futa discord" (a direct quote from earlier) and thinking that's what the channel is supposed to be like.

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Originally Posted by Doozer

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Originally Posted by Doozer

... so I entered the NN chat and it was full of mentors who were standing around together in the same area just chatting about their glamours (and saying some adult-themed things I probably can't post on the forums) ...

... and what qualifies as a good reason to kick someone ...

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That ship has sailed, buddy. This topic has been beaten to death already. You’re a new mentor trying to change the status quo. The NN is treated as a server wide chat channel for mentors and sprouts. As long as sprouts aren’t being ignored and the TOS isn’t being violated there’s nothing wrong and no reason for you to find reasons to justify removing people you feel are being inappropriate.

The NNs on each server are pretty self-regulating, for the most part. For us, the only hard and fast rule we enforce is "no recruiting for FCs" - mostly because all the mentors are in FCs and if we let one person do it, we'd have to let everyone do it, and it'd quickly devolve into spam.

Other than that it's a free for all. "Futa vore discord" would likely get a semi-sarcastic comment from me ("Wait, are we now on Balmung or something?")

I have also booted a sprout from NN for spamming rap lyrics, but only because they contained the N word.

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Originally Posted by Moonfish

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What you've done with those quotes is take two things I said and say they're related. Here's an example:

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Originally Posted by Moonfish

That ship has sailed, buddy....

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Originally Posted by Moonfish

...TOS isn’t being violated...

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Wait... a ship is being violated??? Where????

Anyway, you're saying that things are so bad that it should just be ignored instead of any attempts to improve it? Or are you really still insisting I'm talking about glamours and not the other thing you conveniently ignored.

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Originally Posted by Doozer

Anyway, you're saying that things are so bad that it should just be ignored instead of any attempts to improve it? Or are you really still insisting I'm talking about glamours and not the other thing you conveniently ignored.

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What I take from this is that you are easily disturbed. Maybe NN isn't for you. No, it's not "so bad it should just be ignored." That futa vore thing you mentioned really isn't that bad.

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Originally Posted by Catwho

The NNs on each server are pretty self-regulating, for the most part.

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Pretty much this. I'm a mentor on the Goblin NN and we are fine with discussion and idle chit chat but the second a sprout or returning player asks a question or needs help with something, all casual conversation stops and mentors will attempt to resolve the question. Even offering to head a run to assist the sprout if needed. This is mostly cause we realize that there isn't gonna be a constant stream of questions and making NN seem like a ghost town just to make it feel more 'official' and 'professional' could scare off sprouts from actually asking questions.

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

That futa vore thing you mentioned really isn't that bad.

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Are you serious? Do you even know what those are? It violates both "Language generally considered unacceptable in a public place" and "Language promoting discrimination against any race, nationality, religion, sexual orientation, gender, or disability" because 'futa' is offensive towards trans women. Like seriously, go say that to a 13 year old and tell me that's appropriate.

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Originally Posted by Doozer

Are you serious? Do you even know what those are? It violates both "Language generally considered unacceptable in a public place" and "Language promoting discrimination against any race, nationality, religion, sexual orientation, gender, or disability" because 'futa' is offensive towards trans women. Next.

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Yes, I know what those things are. Are they describing the acts performed in them? No. There's nothing obscene about mentioning it.

Its there so novice players can actually hear someone talking in game, instead of their first ten hours being utterly silent.

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

Yes, I know what those things are. Are they describing the acts performed in them? No. There's nothing obscene about mentioning it.

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They still violate the rules I mentioned. It doesn't matter what you think is okay to say in public or in front of a 13 year old.