How is the summoner dps?

Until the dominance of physical meta can be thrown off, casters will NEVER be in a “good” spot, as far as I’m concerned.

There will always be meta it’s true, but it’s just obnoxious

The "meta" is an overhyped overblown load of Malboro waste. It's just something that bad players cling to to try to justify stupid decisions like excluding a job just because it's not the in thing. It's been stated over and over again that every job is perfectly capable of doing any content. These people that cling to the meta thinking that it's the only way to succeed just frankly need to get better at playing.

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Originally Posted by DJMau

The "meta" is an overhyped overblown load of Malboro waste. It's just something that bad players cling to to try to justify stupid decisions like excluding a job just because it's not the in thing. It's been stated over and over again that every job is perfectly capable of doing any content. These people that cling to the meta thinking that it's the only way to succeed just frankly need to get better at playing.

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Until you get a BLM for your group, get 3 weeks in to prog, realize he cannot raise, cannot heal, cannot mitigate and cannot play any other classes.

I don't get your point, ppl have completed v4s week 1 with BLM in their group

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Originally Posted by CookieMonsta

Until you get a BLM for your group, get 3 weeks in to prog, realize he cannot raise, cannot heal, cannot mitigate and cannot play any other classes.

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maybe its not blms in generell just "the one" you have had to handle with? I just don't want to say that he/she seems to suck tho.... : /

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Originally Posted by CookieMonsta

Until you get a BLM for your group, get 3 weeks in to prog, realize he cannot raise, cannot heal, cannot mitigate and cannot play any other classes.

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Why do you need your BLM to do any of those things?
Also BLMs can mitigate as well as a RDM or SMN can - Addle and Apocatastasis (which is all the mitigation a caster can bring) are role skills.

Have opener and rotation changed between 4.0 and 4.1 ? if so, could you provide us with a proper new opener/rotation
thank you

If you ask me the damage is too high.
There is no reason why a SMN should be doing more damage than a BLM seeing as the former gives rDMG while the latter does not.
BLM should be the one doing SAM damage, not SMN.

I'm wouldnt be too surprise to see a small BLM buff next patch. In 4.0 discussion we're heavily focused on SMN issue, the grand winner of this patch is BLM so I guess we can expect some change for 4.2, although it sucks that we have to wait so long for it. Maybe some minor change in 4.15

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Originally Posted by Remedi

I don't get your point, ppl have completed v4s week 1 with BLM in their group

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When it comes to recovery abilities like those of rdm, the point is not "what can be done without them" but rather "what can be done with them." My group would've taken longer to clear o1s-o4s than we did if we had a blm or even smn instead of rdm during prog. Should we git gud? Yeah maybe. Still doesn't change the fact that most of our first clears wouldn't be possible with a blm. Some of the casters that switched to rdm for prog agreed that they wouldn't have cleared as fast if they went with blm/smn instead. It's not impossible to clear fast with a blm, but you can't really deny that bringing a rdm makes things easier during prog.