DPS frustration

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Originally Posted by Sylvina

Tanking is easy. Healing is not much harder. so WHY does it have to be so difficult to do passable dps in this game?

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Because tanks only need 3 buttons to be efficient 99% of the game, healers only need 2 or 3 depending if it's aoe or not (and usually have one dps spell anyway), while dps have triple if not five times the buttons to press, positionals, specific cds and more that healers and tanks usually don't need to care about for most of the game. Talk about fairness, am I right?

With that said, I don't know how much BLM was changed, but don't forget that blm can be tough with certain bosses and if they require moving a lot, you lose dps and sometimes your buffs. But I haven't touched it yet and I'm still unaware of the changes: I can only speak from a former HW BLM

Honestly the best advice I can give is to actually check online for guides, use the SSS or whatever simulator to check your dps (If you're anti-parser that is) and see what gets better and what not. Also try to get into some linkshells or guilds or whatever because DPS are usually the most ignored, since they are so many they are basically "cheap products". Being in more groups will help you find the good rotation.

What exactly is your rotation? BLM should be over 4k with even 310 gear. Do you move around a lot for mechanics? You'll want to plant yourself in one spot as much as possible bc every single movement while something is targetable is a dps loss. Are you using Foul every 30 seconds or forgetting and losing one(or more) from saving it? Are you being a bad and taking a hit from an AOE you know you'll live from for that extra damage(ie Susanoo's bubble things/acceleration bombs)?

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Originally Posted by Voltyblast

Because tanks only need 3 buttons to be efficient 99% of the game, healers only need 2 or 3 depending if it's aoe or not (and usually have one dps spell anyway), while dps have triple if not five times the buttons to press, positionals, specific cds and more that healers and tanks usually don't need to care about for most of the game. Talk about fairness, am I right?

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Record us a dungeon with you ONLY using 3 buttons as a healer or tank.

We'll be fair, we'll wait.

(This guy has good ideas, listen to him)

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Originally Posted by Voltyblast

With that said, I don't know how much BLM was changed, but don't forget that blm can be tough with certain bosses and if they require moving a lot, you lose dps and sometimes your buffs. But I haven't touched it yet and I'm still unaware of the changes: I can only speak from a former HW BLM

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Enochian is way easier to maintain now. As long as you don't lose Astral or Umbral, you're golden (any level of either stance). Even transpose can save you from a long downtime. Since you don't have to cast Blizz 4 to refresh Enochian anymore, it now gives 3 stacks of "your next Fire, Fire 2 and Fire 4 spells will consume less MP", with some traits that affect the MP consumption of Flare as well.

I think BLM is easier to use now, since you also have Triple Cast (3 free casts of any spell), allowing you to either fast spam spells or move and cast. The only additional spell is Foul, which procs when you have Enochian up for 30 seconds. Both Thunder 2 and 4 are AoE dots, whereas Thunder 1 and 3 are single target. They replace each other as you level.

You would be better off asking for advice on playing a certain job and people will be alot more willing to assist you. Instead of trying to describe your trouble playing DPS as an injustice.

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Originally Posted by Sylvina

Tanking is easy. Healing is not much harder. so WHY does it have to be so difficult to do passable dps in this game?

My warrior easily outdpses my black mage in ex trials becuase black mage has to juggle a short timer with a fairly complex rotation, while white mage can do about half as much damage by spamming ONE button!

If anyone can offer advice or help I'd appreciate it becuase I'm about ready to give up on dps in this game. definitely not the easy job it's made out to be, dps should be commended on their dedication and months of practice they put in to get that 3k+ dps.

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Do you base your DPS performance on the amount of comms you get? No, of course you don't. So why shoot yourself in the foot by trying to make one role out to be more difficult than others? You're essentially doing the same thing that seeds your frustration.

The notion that DPS is easy to play has nothing to do with their complex rotations that they have in this game. It comes from the fact that they have less responsibility in the group than the tanks and healers. It doesn't make the DPS component of the holy trinity any less important, but wipes typically fall on the shoulders of the tank, or the healer, or both.

The complexity of your rotations is where your difficulty comes into play. Tanks and healers have other elements to their gameplay that makes it challenging, and this is why healers in particular don't have any kind of combos/DPS rotations to follow, and would likely be a distraction when clutch healing is needed.

Simply put, it would seem you don't like to be told that your role is easy to play. So you might want to keep that in mind before saying a role other than yours is easy to play. It leaves salty tastes on people's mouths.

Let's start off with 2 important words:

Muscle Memory.

The two words that people will hate:

Striking Dummy.

If people didn't get rotations down, then we'd have a failed system with DPS. So...how are they getting those numbers? They have to practice and get rotations in their head so that they're not button fumbling.

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Originally Posted by Pence

Firstly....3k DPS doesn't require 'months of dedication'. It's borderline bad / unacceptable. You have not given anything specific for us to go on. How do you expect help? You want us to piece together a broken record while blindfolded?

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So you are saying 3K dps is bad... interesting and how will most players know this w/out using a parser? I can practice on a dummy all day long and check out multiple rotation guides..ect yet there is no way to know what my dps is w/out some sort of parser.

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Originally Posted by Astral145

So you are saying 3K dps is bad... interesting and how will most players know this w/out using a parser? I can practice on a dummy all day long and check out multiple rotation guides..ect yet there is no way to know what my dps is w/out some sort of parser.

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Originally Posted by Astral145

So you are saying 3K dps is bad... interesting and how will most players know this w/out using a parser? I can practice on a dummy all day long and check out multiple rotation guides..ect yet there is no way to know what my dps is w/out some sort of parser.

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Interesting that you would pull me up for using the same numbers as the OP. Maybe ask him how he knows the DPS he is pulling?