I know it shouldnt bother me but it does: no hammer weaps?

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Originally Posted by Belhi

I think one of the reasons they limit weapon options is that most Jobs are identified by their weapons and no jobs share weapons. Even SCH and SMN use different books. It allows them to have clear variations for Job identities.

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I liked the whole "Each class is defined by a different weapon type" concept from the start (and was annoyed at casters getting wands and staves because of it), but once we ended up with Paladin, Dark Knight, and Samurai all using different forms of swords, yet the latter 2 not branching from Gladiator, I don't really know how to feel at this point. :-(

And honestly, though it might not be a popular idea, I'd like to see them just merge Mind and Int at this point and/or allow crossover for all of the (non-artifact/relic) Grimoires. As a rule, weapons should be class-defined rather than job defined (except for the jobs that [unfortunately] ignore the class system, obviously).

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Originally Posted by Daralii

Dark knights have two club options, one from PvP, and the other from the Gold Saucer. Every job that uses a 2-handed weapon will be able to get a scythe whenever the Edda glamour set that was datamined in 4.0(1?) becomes obtainable.

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Bonus points if they make it work for Bard. >_>

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Originally Posted by Belhi

Scythes would be tricky as they would probably require entirely new animations. On the other hand I could see them using the Axe animations for Hammers. I think the man issue is the issue with Slashing damage but technically they already have a metal club for DRKs so maybe that isn't as big a deal.

I think one of the reasons they limit weapon options is that most Jobs are identified by their weapons and no jobs share weapons. Even SCH and SMN use different books. It allows them to have clear variations for Job identities.

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The reason they limit weapon options is because it's too much work to make multiple weapons. SE are as tight as possible with resources in this game, if you haven't realized. BLM and WHM used to have 1 hand options a long time ago before they decided it was too much work. It's lazy but it's cheap and that's what's important to the XIV team.

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Originally Posted by Valinis

BLM and WHM used to have 1 hand options a long time ago before they decided it was too much work.

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Actually, SE removed one-hand options for BLM and WHM because a lot of BLM and WHM mains didn't want to have to collect a one-hand weapon and a shield when they could just collect one staff. Unlike Paladin weapons today, those items did not drop together.

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Originally Posted by Dameron

Actually, SE removed one-hand options for BLM and WHM because a lot of BLM and WHM mains didn't want to have to collect a one-hand weapon and a shield when they could just collect one staff. Unlike Paladin weapons today, those items did not drop together.

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If that was the reason they could have just made them drop together as you said. They stopped it because it meant making a staff, a wand and a shield for classes that didn't really "need" a shield like PLD. I was a BLM main in 2.0 and loved using a wand and shield, and would much rather weapon options other than staff, staff or a staff (the exact same weapon a WHM has).

I know this is kinda off subject but I wouldn't mind a battle-staff wielding class myself. Like an interesting hybrid between Monk and Dragoon. People talking about hammers and blunt weapons reminded me about battle staves.

i hope the save the hammers for a new class, instead of just giving WAR hammer weapons on top of axes.

we still don't have any DD with a heavy melee weapon...

Now that I think of it... I don't think I've ever seen a hammer wep in any FF game.

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Hammer_(weapon)

And yeah looks like the only characters in a numbered FF was Cinna, a minor character from IX.

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Originally Posted by Valinis

If that was the reason they could have just made them drop together as you said. They stopped it because it meant making a staff, a wand and a shield for classes that didn't really "need" a shield like PLD. I was a BLM main in 2.0 and loved using a wand and shield, and would much rather weapon options other than staff, staff or a staff (the exact same weapon a WHM has).

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All the wands/rods+shields (even the Leviathan weapons) were holdovers from 1.0. Dropping the one-handed WHM and BLM weapons was more the result of them having to fight the legacy spaghetti code (they couldn't make things drop together until one of the 3.X patches) and a two-handed to one-handed+shield "upgrade" wasn't an upgrade for Whm/Blm unless you got both parts (Blm suffered from this in BCoB). Paladins could at least always upgrade their sword and shield separately so were less penalized by a half drop.

Considering the length of time it took to fix the problem and due to the fact that classes/jobs are determined by their weapon, it seems they have opted to save wand and shield for a future class rather than add the secondary weapon paths back in for Whm and Blm.

Actually each job has its own weapon. So consider missing weapons as a future expansion's new job attached to that weapon: bell, boomerang, hammer, scythe, etc

I've always thought of this, I'm a fan of war hammers. If you were to ask me, if Geomancer ever was a class in this game, it would be the hammer user. It would be so appropriate, not to mention the interesting weapon oportunities to include crystals as the head of the hammer and god knows what as magic catalysts.