Susano EX

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Originally Posted by Arutan

There seems to be a coniagious disease on this boss named "healer DPS" which ultimately lead to an unavoidable wipe

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If by "healer DPS" you mean DPS's not pulling their weight and the healers and tanks aren't outputting enough DPS to make up for the deficit thus causing enrage, then I could see that happening. If you are saying that healers doing DPS are causing wipes then I just have to say either the tanks aren't mitigating properly, people are screwing up mechanics and are creating more damage than the healers can handle, or just bad players in general and nothing to do with the play style of healers doing DPS when healing is not needed at the moment.

As for my personal progress, I cleared it on my first learning party and got my Susano's Greatsword after a couple more runs as a drop.

You should not need certain dps or any crazy crap like that it's easily done at the minimum required Ilvl I say that because I saw 310 yesterday and was like wtf lol....healers can dps since the healing is super easy in there....the only issue you would have is the party not paying attention to the lightning that is the only problem I see even in farm parties shit hits the fan quick when someone messes up the lighting mechanic

I cleared both primals with my static on our first session in there, so, pretty good?

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

Enrage after enrage after enrage. I've gotten to 1% a couple of times. I think the fight is a bit too demanding on dps for the current gear level because a couple of deaths is enough to fail it. Finding non farm parties where people don't die is nearly impossible.

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Gear is more than enough and I doubt the boss require perfect rotations. So, if DPS is not enough DD need to improve it or wait till they can out gear the fight.

45 clears. I just pug it now, and 64 left to go for 99 totems. Now drops for classes I actually play on the other hand are another story entirely. Most of the wipes I've seen are general derp with lightning. It happens once in a while when I begin to auto pilot in the primal.

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

Enrage after enrage after enrage. I've gotten to 1% a couple of times. I think the fight is a bit too demanding on dps for the current gear level because a couple of deaths is enough to fail it. Finding non farm parties where people don't die is nearly impossible.

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Definitely not the case. The dps check for Susano is ridiculously low and if you're running into multiple enrages I would say that you should join an FC or a static instead of trying to pug it until people learn their rotations for Stormblood

Went through about 40 different PF "clear" groups before I managed to get my 10 totems for the weapon. I'm not touching that fight agaon until the rest of my FC gets up to par. Lakshmi ex was a much more relaxing trial imo. There are way too many groups in PF that fail nearly ever mechanic repeatedly. It was such a headache.

Took about 5 tried then cleared it 17 times strait with my guild.

Not a hard fight at all, dps check is very forgiving compared to primals of other expansions.

Tried pugging it a few times and you can see the issues though. Tanks with no clue what they are doing, positioning problems like crazy and dps dealing around half the dmg they should at their Ilvl. People need to do the target dummys and learn their rotations before going into it would solve half the problem. Issue is a playerbase skill problem not a fight problem, people are going into the fights not even knowing how to play their jobs right.

Got everything I need from him, except the mount

Many say this isn't a hard fight, and while it's not overly difficult, it's not easy either. Once you get a group that can do it, though, the clears fly by.

edit: The most helpful thing I've found is some sort of audio reminder when lightning marker pops on someone, either in voice chat, or with a sound effect. Once you have lightning managed, that's 80% of the fight. The other 20% is figuring out how your group wants to handle bad cloud placements.