Really afraid SE is going to think things are fine because of the amount of WHM/SCHs

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Originally Posted by Shai

I really, really wish people would stop judging jobs when we don't even have access to the content the changes were built for - or the content built to handle these changes, I guess. .

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But shouldn't a job be enjoyable on all content?

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Originally Posted by Shai

I really, really wish people would stop judging jobs when we don't even have access to the content the changes were built for - or the content built to handle these changes, I guess.

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There's more to the game than Savage raids. If SCH isn't fun in dungeons or trials that's a problem because most people spend their time there.

Playing SCH at the moment because it's been my main since 2.x, and first job I got to 70. I plan on getting all healers to 70 as soon as I can to see if any of the other two are more manageable than SCH - honestly, it's the first time in ages I've ever felt anything close to helpless in dungeons on SCH :/ Apparently all tanks are of the opinion that since healers can't DPS as hard as we could before, it's outrduty to be able to heal through every and anything no matter how many packs of trash they decide to pull and no matter how squishier they've become/cooldowns they have available.

I don't doubt that SCH could be, and probably is, viable in savage content, but I'd like to have something more reliable that embrace spam and wonky fairy AI to heal dungeons...

Yeah, I'm sure Sch will be usable in Savage content.

Still not an excuse for them though to neuter the class for all other content.

I've never felt helpless as a SCH. The closest was that run of Bardam when the tank was having fun with me and I was still getting use to the changes. Adlo+excognition+sacred soil is enough for any pull. People talk about how bad excognition is, but it's a great reactive skill. The only time I feel over my head is when both the DPS play in the orange pools. But even then indomitable and succor and they're all good.

I'm afraid that even if the playerbase as a whole were to somehow unify to counter this particular way of misinterpreting statistics to draw an unrealistically pleasant conclusion, SE can always find another.

Ok im gonna say something nobody likes.
Ive being also playing Scholar since day 1.
Now in SB at the start I also was like wtf is going on.

MP Problems - MP was drying out very quickly (I didnt had lucid dream cause I never had an issue with MP before), thats when I learned the power of lucid dream, its a bad thing that this is a must and it takes off my space for a E4E that also has longer cooldown that before, but well with this MP is not longer an issue.

Fey Union - Omg im loving this skill! Ofc it has some issues maybe it can be a l fixed a little. But man when u know when and how to use it I even think its OP. Each heal is stronger than a physicks, so its a constant powerfull heal, Im using this a lot in Lakshmi and Susano extreme when I know we are in a part when the tank won move, so I place my eos next to the tank, Fey Union, and dont stop DPSing for abour 40-60 seconds. Its a very good skill to complement with dpsing, the tank wont go down its so powerfull. But again you must know when its the time.


Excognitation sucks, nothing to say here.

Less dots, yeah we lost some but wlel nothing to say, also we lost Virus thats a big problem for me but well thats how things are.

So to finish, yeah maybe in dungeon first dungeons tanks are squishy, but remember we and them arent overgeared for them as we where before. And for expert dungeons im not having a problem at all, dungeons never had being a thing.
And for the primals ex i think its working perfectly, im actually having fun with fey union system.
It doesnt mean they could fix some things, but for me the job is working and for the looks of it ill keep raiding with SCH (I have raided as all healers before).

Not everything is that bad guys :)t

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Originally Posted by Clouse_Cleyra

Not everything is that bad guys :)t

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I like you. I think with Excognition, you have to treat it like Zarya's bubble and be reactive with it. It's a lot more forgiving, but it comes in handy. And you're the only other person I've met that loves Fey Union. If she would just reposition herself if the target moves out of range it would be the best.

What I don't see a lot in those healer threads is the impact on solo content. I mean, you play most of the game solo after. That's why I don't get how SE could possibly think that nerfing healers' damage even more than it is would be a good idea. Killing just a single mob (as a white mage) is a pain, it takes ages. So yeah, I see a lot of people discussing the impact of this in dungeons and raids like it's not a big deal since healers aren't dps anyway but I'd love to see SE stop making healers so weak. Things like taking away the dot of AST's Gravity or the damage of WHM's Fluid Aura make no sense, except if the message is specifically "Hey, go frak yourself, healer.".

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Originally Posted by Heliantheae

I like you. I think with Excognition, you have to treat it like Zarya's bubble and be reactive with it. It's a lot more forgiving, but it comes in handy. And you're the only other person I've met that loves Fey Union. If she would just reposition herself if the target moves out of range it would be the best.

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Because it costs an Aetherflow stack and is only 50p more than Lustrate, Excog is generally not worth risking because of it's delayed trigger on a limited duration. Only time I generally use it is if the target is already below 50% for the slightly stronger heal.

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Originally Posted by Kalayel

Things like taking away the dot of AST's Gravity or the damage of WHM's Fluid Aura make no sense, except if the message is specifically "Hey, go frak yourself, healer.".

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Um. While I agree with you generally, Gravity never had a DoT.