Rate the new PvP system from 1 to 10

I played BRD and it was very fun in FL but it was total chaos due to it being Shatter.. Anyways, gameplay is fast and BRD is fluid. I've only experienced 5 matches total so still have to do more testing.

I think everyone dies a little too quick for my taste but the gameplay is fun. And it would be really great if we could have at least one more Additional Action. I also dislike the forced exp. Would like a toggle for that.

I rate 7/10

I'd say 5/10... I honestly didn't like most of the changes as I was used to like PvP how it was before, and even though I understand it was too hard to kill healers before, but I think the skill kit for SCH for example is just too limited. I was feeling useless most of the time. Also not having a fairy around feels really weird. I found myself spamming Lustrate all the time because I only have single target heals. RDM is broken af, like whenever a RDM targets someone the person deis in two seconds, it's just ridiculous, and I guess people have discovered that because parties are teeming with RDMs. Overall I just feel like PvP is very unbalanced at the moment and a little bit to limited. Isn't as fun as before to me. Also, I didn't really understand why we still have ranks if we don't get to spend points anymore on skills o.o Is it only for the ranked matches?

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Originally Posted by fadeddreamss

IAlso not having a fairy around feels really weird. I found myself spamming Lustrate all the time because I only have single target heals. RDM is broken af, like whenever a RDM targets someone the person deis in two seconds, it's just ridiculous, and I guess people have discovered that because parties are teeming with RDMs. Overall I just feel like PvP is very unbalanced at the moment and a little bit to limited. Isn't as fun as before to me. Also, I didn't really understand why we still have ranks if we don't get to spend points anymore on skills o.o Is it only for the ranked matches?

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What's the right way to use RDM? They seem to be worse spell casters than BLM and jumping in melee with them is suicide unless you pick off stragglers or people out of position.

5/10 for now. Not terrible, but not great. Not having a gap closer on NIN anymore really, really hurts. No that weird teleport useless skill that we have is still useless except for fleeing terribly and doesn't count as a gap closer. I feel like I spend most of my time throwing my knives instead of stabbing potato's with them. Muscle memory is my biggest enemy.. I keep going to hit skills that aren't there anymore ><; Mudra's especially.

3
they completely nerf all class, especially ninja
no more hide on whim
no more assasination at base
no more run faster
no more free jump from cliff
no more guerilla tactic

These changes seem well made for Feast, and I'm generally having a good time with it in that mode. But I'm not sure how well these changes fit in with the Frontlines mode.

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Originally Posted by Koltik

Then you haven't played a good PLD or DRK yet =)

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Im still old style pvp minded where you use CC to keep a target out of the fight for 10-15s and simply have to avoid touching em.

My biggest peeve with PVP is still the blantantly obvious "don't play our MMO with your friends" vibe the limited queues give.

Thus far, I'm enjoying the changes (Bear in mind I've ONLY played as the three healers in 4v4 feast, no other mode.) Matches are quicker, and FINALLY it's not all down to the healer. Healer's lack of utility has made the game more dependent on the dps, which relieves a lot of stress.

I'd say 8/10, but again, I haven't tried frontlines -- and I can imagine the lack of AOE heals to be quite detrimental.

Melee dps 72 shatter, as of now, feels like 3/10
Can't do crap but hit ice, and an occasional stray. Unless you got a deathwish, or the other teams sucks.
With the combo of fetter ward and purify, melee could jump in the throng of enemies before, but now you have to sacrifice self-heal and/or sprint in order to do so.

But I'm used to getting cc from hell and that's apparently not a thing anymore, so I guess some mental adjustment is in order. You probably want different skills depending on 24/72 and if you have healer in pty.

6/10. Nin's entire utilities kit (stealth, bind, heavy) is locked behind Three-mudra and ninki, making engaging ranged dps harder now. And the fact that w/o (enough ninki), you can't do jack except assassinate, silence and "auto". The on demand stealth is nice, but can we have that w/o the 5 second of not-getting-hit? Keep the 5 second delay, but drop the not-getting-hit.