People telling me how to play healer

Another low-tier bait thread. sigh, subtlety is an unappreciated art.

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Originally Posted by Zojha

Yes. The topic has two fairly clear factions and it really just takes any random spark to ignite the fire again. It has come up over and over without Yoshi saying anything, so it's safe to say his statement was simply another spark. One could have just made a thread suggesting healers should be left to heal now that 2 DPS are coming with stormblood and it would have the same effect.

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I suppose you're right. But I think it's too early to be crying/celebrating either way...his words don't necessarily mean significant changes are coming, he was just stating a philosophy. I can be optimistic that maybe changes are coming, but I wouldn't go so far as to assume it as fact. IIRC he's said he liked certain things or thought certain things were working just fine before, only to change them after community feedback.

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Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo

I wish people on both camps would stop taking his statement so grossly out of context. All I really read into it was that he doesn't seem to like the healer DPS meta direction that the game is taking but seems uncertain at this point how to marginalize it without causing backlash (i.e "if we remove Cleric Stance people will wig out", which is of course true).

I do have to wonder if the shoe was on the other foot though, and YoshiP happened to say he liked the flexibility that healers have on contributing DPS and that he wanted to find more ways to incorporate that intocontent...would we still be seeing so much community outrage like this? Is this only happening because people have felt like they've been playing the game "the way it's meant to be played" the entire time only to maybe find out that it wasn't exactly intended and now might be changed?

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Things is, many people just don't understand that with current game design two things will always be true:

1. If big chunks of damage only occur by doing mechanics wrong, then there will always be low damage, if everyone is doing the mechanics correctly.
As long as we have AoE markers (and those are not just insta kills) there will always be a more or less big gap between minimum and maximum heal requirements.

Just look at the first boss of Dun Scath. If your Group is NOT tanking and everyone is doing the mechanics properly, the only thing you have to heal is:
1 person every Void Aero 3. One AoE heal per Blizzard 4. That's it. I think about 5-7 healing GCDs. For both healers together and not for each one! I.e. a fairy can do that alone (because the magical def. pet action and the AoE regen should be up for every Blizz4. But not absolutly sure about that.)
Ferdiad, if everyone does the mechanic properly, all you have to heal is: Flamethrower (? the raid wide AoE with the puddles) and his ultimate attack after the add phase. I think about 4-5 healing GCDs.
Third Boss it's only her AoE cast and the dropping add which does damage for sure, everything else again: avoidable.

2. "Only tanking/mitigating" and "only healing" don't work well with horizontal game designs like the one this game uses.
This means: When you first enter a content you need to heal x% of the time, (maybe) need to use tank stance to cover some damage when mitigation CDs are on CD, do an extra tank swap, need pre-shields to survive Prey-mechanics and so on...
Now, 30 ilvls later you don't have to heal that much and don't have to stay that much in tank stance anymore. What now?

...Is this a joke thread or is the OP being serious? I can't tell anymore...

The 'quality' of community is why the Devs don't bother speaking to us here.

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

...Is this a joke thread it is the OP being serious? I can't tell anymore...

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Im on the same boat.
I actually DID attempt to kick a lazy AST who didnt wanna play cards during a dungeon not too long ago, because "they arent needed and I play how I want".
So I HAVE seen that attitude before and they were completely serious about it.

not a really good troll.

Our poor NA community is quickly becoming much worse then anything in WoW, I just wanna curl up into a ball and cry! ; ^ ;

It's healer week on the forum. Guess the 280 rage is dying out so we need something to entertain the masses.

It's similar to a rotation, which a lot of the player base has no idea how that works. Cards and buffs are part of the class- Not just for elitist or top players to use.