I thought they didn't want to implement an emote like this...

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Originally Posted by Zojha

Have you all forgot how server issues and data load and technical issues and all the other reasons named to not increase inventory can easily be circumvented for 1$ a month?

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Yeah it's amazing how fast increasing the sub fee makes their insurmountable technical problems go away. Almost like they're just lying to us and assuming we're too stupid to notice.

"We can't add new retainers, the servers would explode, too much data being handled, etc etc, but if you pay me $2 a month per retainer we might be able to do something about it."

"But SE, people are able to gain millions of gil from those 6 extra ventures per hour and more from having a bigger limit of items listings in the marketboard, isn't that the same as RMT?"

*crickets*

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Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

I wish they wouldn't give us BS excuses when the real answer to everything is "we'll implement it if you pay us".

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*WARNING* EDGY COMMENT INCOMING *WARNING*
Because a beautiful lie is better than an ugly truth.

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Originally Posted by alimdia

"We can't add new retainers, the servers would explode, too much data being handled, etc etc, but if you pay me $2 a month per retainer we might be able to do something about it."

"But SE, people are able to gain millions of gil from those 6 extra ventures per hour and more from having a bigger limit of items listings in the marketboard, isn't that the same as RMT?"

*crickets*

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That's wrong though. That falls more in the P2W category, not RMT. While technically it is real money trading, you're 'trading' your money to SE, not a third party company/person gaining profit from someone else's product, which is the only reason RMT is illegal.

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Originally Posted by alimdia

"But SE, people are able to gain millions of gil from those 6 extra ventures per hour and more from having a bigger limit of items listings in the marketboard, isn't that the same as RMT?"

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*coughs*.. Uhm.. on a somewhat related note, what am I not doing right with my retainers? lol

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Originally Posted by Kit-Kat

That's wrong though. That falls more in the P2W category, not RMT. While technically it is real money trading, you're 'trading' your money to SE, not a third party company/person gaining profit from someone else's product, which is the only reason RMT is illegal.

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Then why don't they allow selling CS items to other players in exchange for gils via the gift option ?
In the end, SE gets the real money not a third person/company

You know Alimdia, RMT is not RMT as long as it profits SE and not the players :D

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Originally Posted by Kit-Kat

While technically it is real money trading, you're 'trading' your money to SE

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Technically correct = the best kind of correct.

RMT makes no distinction between bot-farmed or SE-endorsed, people made this very clear when the topic came up regarding the implementation of sub tokens.

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Originally Posted by Celef

Then why don't they allow selling CS items to other players in exchange for gils via the gift option ?
In the end, SE gets the real money not a third person/company

You know Alimdia, RMT is not RMT as long as it profits SE and not the players :D

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Because it's not a safe trade. Scams may happen, and SE can't control that. People always abuse it in many games (I personally happened to experience it) and SE would get a shitstorm of support tickets.

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Originally Posted by alimdia

Technically correct = the best kind of correct.

RMT makes no distinction between bot-farmed or SE-endorsed, people made this very clear when the topic came up regarding the implementation of sub tokens.

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I'm against RMT, but please don't just quote what you like to read instead of the whole statement. The only reason RMT is illegal in every game (or anything really) is because someone is making profit from their product. Pretty much just like pirating movies. It does make a distinction when SE is making money from its own product like selling in-game 'merchandise', they're not profiting from enyone elses work and you can't compare it like you did. Morally incorrect? up to one's opinion, but it's not the same.
And I said technically, because technically and literally RMT stands for Real Money Trading, which is the act involving you giving real money cash to someone, while in online communities it stands for selling virtual items obtained in a product you don't own for real life cash.

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Originally Posted by Callinon

Yeah it's amazing how fast increasing the sub fee makes their insurmountable technical problems go away. Almost like they're just lying to us and assuming we're too stupid to notice.

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I would love to ask this at the next Live Letter. I would love to know why doze couldn't work but this suddenly can, and why doze hasn't been implemented in the same way as play dead.

I have respect for SE, but between this and the Proto Ultima mess, it makes me feel like a can't trust their word a whole lot anymore