SCH pet glamors?

I wouldn't say you'd get carbuncle, but SCH might get glamour fairies later. Maybe they'll introduce them in ways like he carbuncles. Or maybe a SCH boss that uses a fairy, or could just be regular trash mobs. Would be annoying but nice to see a mob that has some of the stuff a SCH has, and get a dark fairy in return glamour wise.

We got our glamour because of how SMN wasn't designed, and the fact there were a ton of threads on it compared to actually fixing the problems. Though I wonder if they'll stick with the egi route, or find a way to upgrade them.

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Originally Posted by Lambdafish

They spent an entire expansion (citation needed) on this feature, only to give it to one of 3 pet jobs. Not giving it to SCH is wasting resources in my opinion

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I agree with you one the waste of ressources but my guess is that they might be afraid of SCH reaction.

If you get access to Carby like we do (and I agree you should be abble to, you are after all, ARC just like us), what will happen if they give us Shiva or Sophia glam but not to SCH ?
Some will understand SCH should not have access to because Egi are SUM part of the job but others will create hundreds of topics to whine that "we should have them too !!!!"

So basically, imho, they won't give this feature to reasonable SCH because of the "not reasonable" ones which is both a waste of ressources and sad for those of you who just want Carby :/

I feel cheated too everyday by SCH's. It's a shame that SE doesn't give me the fairies as glamour for my titan egi.

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Originally Posted by Celef

what will happen if they give us Shiva or Sophia glam but not to SCH ?
Some will understand SCH should not have access to because Egi are SUM part of the job but others will create hundreds of topics to whine that "we should have them too !!!!"

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So give SCH their own glamours. Phoenix, male fairies, recolours, moogles.

And as for lore reasons (spoiler for allied beast quest 2.0):

There was a sylph that became a human to blend in, there is no reason why the same technology couldn't be used to hide Lily from suspicion

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Originally Posted by Celef

They gave use Egi glam because they screwed the SUM job, we have only 3 pets when we were supposed to get more (but IIRC they were afraid of balance issues) so it's their way to make it up to us for giving us a non pet SUM class ^^"

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So screwed that they were the DPS of choice at several points over the last 4 years. Yes, totally screwed...

::rolls eyes::

Both come from Arcanist, Arcanist uses carbuncles. By all means use glamors for your Egi, but a) you have 3 things you can summon, and b) why would only Summoner be able to summon forth a carbuncle, when Scholar is just as much an Arcanist as you are?

If they give Scholars some form of glamour option for Eos and Selene then it either needs to be some form of carbuncle, or a skin/costume change for them. Either way, SMN is hardly 'hard done by', so stop claiming that you got the glamours as some kind of compensation for being a great DPS job with 3 pets which you found lack-luster.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

So screwed that they were the DPS of choice at several points over the last 4 years. Yes, totally screwed...

::rolls eyes::

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Imagine Summoner had come out in 3.0 instead of 2.0. Instead of Machinist we got Summoner, it's identical to Machinist except the turrets look like Ifrit and Garuda and the job quests go on about the mighty power of your fearsome "primals".

It would be a good class, sought after for raids, but it would be a pretty rubbish version of Summoner. Not everything is about the numbers.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

So screwed that they were the DPS of choice at several points over the last 4 years. Yes, totally screwed...

::rolls eyes::

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Not talking about the class "power" as a DPS, talking about the class in itself, the way it was designed and how they screwed the summoning part in summoner.

::rolls eyes:: too

You can't call "Summoner" a class that gives you only 3 different pet to use and focuses on DoT, especially considering the background of SUM in FF history (juste take Yuna from FF10 for instance, 10 different Eons, each one with it's "personality").
That's not a SUM, that's, at best, a "kawaï necro" because SE does not want us to play with dead things while using diseases as our main way to DPS^^"

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Originally Posted by Celef

Not talking about the class "power" as a DPS, talking about the class in itself, the way it was designed and how they screwed the summoning part in summoner.

::rolls eyes:: too

You can't call "Summoner" a class that gives you only 3 different pet to use and focuses on DoT, especially considering the background of SUM in FF history (juste take Yuna from FF10 for instance, 10 different Eons, each one with it's "personality").
That's not a SUM, that's, at best, a "kawaï necro" because SE does not want us to play with dead things while using diseases as our main way to DPS^^"

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Sounds more like you are upset that you can't have the full size Titan at your right hand or Garuda at your left. Honestly, if SMN was implemented the way you appear to wish, the balance of jobs would be destroyed, not because of the job's power, but because of the ridiculous amount of effort that would be poured into that one job.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

Imagine Summoner had come out in 3.0 instead of 2.0. Instead of Machinist we got Summoner, it's identical to Machinist except the turrets look like Ifrit and Garuda and the job quests go on about the mighty power of your fearsome "primals".

It would be a good class, sought after for raids, but it would be a pretty rubbish version of Summoner. Not everything is about the numbers.

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Except allowing players to summon real primals would break the lore and logic of the setting, it would also make SMN the only job to play since who would want to play anything else if there is a job that let's you bring forth a real primal at your command? I honestly think that sticking to that kind of expectation for Summoner is really unrealistic, and complaining about it now to defend a lopsided pet glamour, just comes over poorly - IMHO.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

Imagine Summoner had come out in 3.0 instead of 2.0. Instead of Machinist we got Summoner, it's identical to Machinist except the turrets look like Ifrit and Garuda and the job quests go on about the mighty power of your fearsome "primals".

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SMN is nothing like MCH though

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

Sounds more like you are upset that you can't have the full size Titan at your right hand or Garuda at your left. Honestly, if SMN was implemented the way you appear to wish, the balance of jobs would be destroyed, not because of the job's power, but because of the ridiculous amount of effort that would be poured into that one job.

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Not really the big ones, but at least more than just 3 to choose from if we keep that system, procs on my spells adding little ones for example, basically a gameplay based on the summons and not just me DoTing and using my egi abilities when up.

I used to call summoners class (in all games) "classe a bebette" in French wich you can transltate by....euh....class with a lot of minions maybe ? Because you have that feeling of having a lot of creature at your service, some of them being just the way your attack looks like (for example the witch doctor in D3 that through jars full of spiders at the enemy, it's just a simple attack but the spiders in it gives you that idea that you control the creatures) or being a gameplay mechanic (like WoW's warloc % of proking "adds" on the ennemy when using specific attacs)

I agree with on the fact it would be impossible to balance and so does SE thus we have Egi glam, a way to give us the illusion we have multiple choice and summons ^^"

Plus I don't see why we could not have bigger (not more powerful) Egi like in "It-Which-Must-Not-Be-Named" just for the look :)
http://www.nephilim-x.com/images/ffxi_zilss3_02.jpg
that's a pretty succub....Shiva :p
(consol limitation maybe ? I'm very bad when it comes to technologies so I don't know how powerfull they are^^")