What about Mystic Knight?

I wouldn't worry about the queues. Career tanks and healers still need to level up too. You'd queue like trials, expert, amd maybe guildhest roulettes, doing fates while waiting. Then the rest of the day you'd queue potd which can ignore roles. Maybe you'll be able.to do dungeons with your squadron. After reaching 6o, MSQ and side questing/exploring while queued for the same roulettes or level appropriate dungeons.


We've seen maybe around 20% of RDM skill animations. It could still make use of an enchanted blade (as a constant melee damage buff like NIN poisons) as a neat and tidy way to make all of its damage driven by INT and magical. It could have a few MYS skills mixed in like say an oGCD Drain Blade or Osmose Blade cooldown, or really any elementally charged weaponskill...

Too much missing info to rule it out yet IMO, but given the descriptions we've been given, it sounds like it'd be a very minor thing if any MYS elements are present at all.


I really like seeing people explain how there needs to be a balanced number of x type jobs, and we're short one of these so the next job will be that type. They must come from non-Final Fantasy games mostly, because there aren't many tank or healer jobs, and the dev team has shown us they have trouble balancing jobs in these roles so far. We're at a point where we have some of everything and anything can be added. But we'll probably be getting mostly DPS from now on, of whatever subtype. It'd come down mostly to what makes sense for a given iconic job, with some room for twisitng a bit (like tank DRK bc heavy armor) or mish-mashing 2 jobs as one (like RNG/BRD and THF/NIN).

So I'd love a Mystic Knight, been my favourite class for basically ever. However, doesn't the pugilist/monk already sortof infringe on this teritory with it's fists of earth/wind/fire? It isn't like red mage not having it saves the class from "elementally charged weapon" redundancy.

Maybe Mystic Knight could be whatever the heck Alisaie is.

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Originally Posted by Fluffernuff

"-need-" has nothing to do with it.SE has... "hinted" at multiple jobs being released in HW, be it 2, 3, whatever. maybe we dont "-need-" any more, but we are getting them. so the forums have been abuzz about speculating what they could be and why.

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I am quite aware of that and that is the point that I have been making in every post .__.

The game doesn't make that distinction? Yes it does! Ranged Physical and Ranged Magical have different LB and the devs when comparing don't usually lump them all together. They share a queue slot but other than that, they usually are not all lumped together. Heck, there's even mechanics in VA that makes Ranged Physical/Mage choose a different target based on physical vs ranged.

The thing is, if they add 2 DPS what about Duty queue ?
Everyone will want to try those new ones, at least when they are out and when it was not really a probleme with HW cause one of each, we'll end up with huge queue times oO

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Originally Posted by Celef

The thing is, if they add 2 DPS what about Duty queue ?
Everyone will want to try those new ones, at least when they are out and when it was not really a probleme with HW cause one of each, we'll end up with huge queue times oO

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2.X did not have very much non-role based content. PotD and possibly Diadem should make things easier.

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Originally Posted by Saccharin

Anyway, I dont think we need new tanks, or new healers.

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Yeah, forget those guys. Boring roles anyways right?

I got so sick of hearing this, we don't need more of anything! The game would be in a fine state since the original ARR jobs, adding more jobs is to keep variety rolling which there is plenty of for DPS and to keep people hooked to their existing roles.

I've heard melee's want a new DPS and I also think they 100% deserve a new job, but most would just stay on their current melee if one didn't get added. Meanwhile tank players are very willing to jump boat if a new cool melee DPS comes out, cough cough SAM cough cough. I for sure will be off specing SAM if it does come out as melee DPS and doing DF stuff with it, while raiding as Tank still. I can wait in queue as well, got plenty to do.

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Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

2.X did not have very much non-role based content. PotD and possibly Diadem should make things easier.

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Yes because nothing is more exciting in a new expansion than being forced into last expansion's content in order to level from 60-70. Doesn't solve how they will be halted from progressing the Main Story because it'll be locked behind dungeons every few levels.

If they care at all about the health of this game, they will not release only DPS for an expansion. There's a reason why every expansion of WoW's that released a new class made sure that class had a tank spec, and we know that Yoshida and his team very much pay attention to Blizzard's successes and mistakes.

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Originally Posted by Shippuu

Yes because nothing is more exciting in a new expansion than being forced into last expansion's content in order to level from 60-70. Doesn't solve how they will be halted from progressing the Main Story because it'll be locked behind dungeons every few.

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Exactly. I think when a new expansion comes out... people don't want to go back to old content for a while, this would make a terrible launch on a shinny new expansion filled with new content.

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Originally Posted by Shippuu

Yes because nothing is more exciting in a new expansion than being forced into last expansion's content in order to level from 60-70. Doesn't solve how they will be halted from progressing the Main Story because it'll be locked behind dungeons every few levels.

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Not everyone is going to jump to the new jobs first and not everyone will try to level the new jobs 60 to 70 with the MSQ. A large amount of the queue jam with the new jobs at launch is going to be in 50 to 60 content just like how much of the queue jam in HW was in 30 to 50 content. Roleless content, the possibility of running dungeons with squadrons and changes to how chocobos function should spread out the player base much better than HW's "only way to level is with dungeons or FATEs" system.

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Originally Posted by Katana190

Exactly. I think when a new expansion comes out... people don't want to go back to old content for a while, this would make a terrible launch on a shinny new expansion filled with new content.

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RDM and any other new jobs are starting at level 50 not the current cap of 60 (unlike Blizzard which put their new classes directly into new content). Anyone leveling the new jobs will be leveling with "old" content first.