Explain Strength, Please help

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Originally Posted by Eruantien

well actually the information given was off the words of the developers, so i took it as fact, as one would assume the people who made the game to be correct.

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You were right in what you said, I just put it in a format that was a slightly easier to understand.

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Originally Posted by Eruantien

well actually the information given was off the words of the developers, so i took it as fact, as one would assume the people who made the game to be correct.

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They never said it like that. Bayohne specifically said that it doesn't work like in FF11.


The cause of most of the confusion comes from the ambiguity over what "attack power" means. To some people, "attack power" means the "attack" stat on your attributes page. To other people, "attack power" means how much damage you do to an enemy. Many people use it interchangeably, and that leads to confusion.

So, as clearly as possible:

STR does not affect the "attack" stat that you see on your attributes page. The only way to increase the "attack" stat is to wear gear that has +attack power on it.

Adding either STR or the "attack power" stat raises your overall damage output. Both stats raise minimum and maximum damage.

Every 1 point of STR increases your damage output more than 1 point of "+attack power". This is roughly a 2:3 ratio as pointed out by Carraway's testing.

A piece of STR materia is roughly equal to a piece of ATK materia of the same quality since you get more ATK stat in an ATK materia, so just use whatever you got. There are some differences, but that only matters to hardcore players so don't even bother.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Since you are all discussing stat changes, post patch 1.19, I thought I'd pass along some info regarding the changes to stats that we received from Triairy. It looks like he left off physical evasion, so I'll bug him about it. ;)

STR: Attack Power
DEX: Physical Attack Accuracy/Block Rate/Parry Rate
VIT: Defense/Enhancing Magic/Max HP
INT: Attack Magic Potency
MND: Healing Magic/Magic Accuracy
PIE: Magic Evasion/Enfeebling Magic/Max MP

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

In regards to the questions of "how much STR do I need to increase my attack?" and "Well, in FFXI this is how it worked!" type of comments; FINAL FANTASY XIV works entirely differently and doesn't use the same system where (for example) 2STR = 1 attack. STR+ X is used to calculate your damage output so you won't see a change in other parameters by simply adding on more STR.

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why not say it short:

str increase minimum dmg

atk power increase maximum dmg ?

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

why not say it short:

str increase minimum dmg

atk power increase maximum dmg ?

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Probably because that's not right. . .

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

why not say it short:

str increase minimum dmg

atk power increase maximum dmg ?

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Because both str and atk power increase both minimum and maximum damage. Test it out sometime.

Unlike other stats, STR and Attack Power effect the damage one does independently.

INT increases your Attack Magic Potency.
DEX increases your Accuracy.
MND increases your Healing Magic Potency.
STR does not increase your Attack Power.

Rather, the damage one does is calculated by a formula that takes both STR and Attack Power into account.

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

Because both str and atk power increase both minimum and maximum damage. Test it out sometime.

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what you say is different from this quote:

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Originally Posted by Technolust

^ Confusing as hell, and a little misleading.

STR has no direct effect on ATK Power. STR increase the damage curve of your base attack. Attack Power increases your base attacks ceiling.

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Lets say you have 200 STR, and your regular attack hits anywhere from 50-62, if you add STR to that what would happen is your base attack would be 55-62. By adding just Attack power you'd hit for 50-70.

This is why adding both STR & Attack Power make sense as the combination of the two would not only increase your base attack, but the base attacks ceiling.

(All numbers are fictional and do not represent actual damage of having 200 STR)

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and after read baYohne quote, and got confuse @.@

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

what you say is different from this quote:




and after read baYohne quote, and got confuse @.@

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Yes but the parser Renta posted proves that the damage output of STR alone or ATK alone raises DPS.

If your using STR your base damage is raised causing an increase in DPS, if your using ATK Power your maximum damage is raised causing an increase in DPS.

This is why a combination of the two should increase your damage beyond just the single stat boosts.

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Originally Posted by Technolust

Yes but the parser Renta posted proves that the damage output of STR alone or ATK alone raises DPS.

If your using STR your base damage is raised causing an increase in DPS, if your using ATK Power your maximum damage is raised causing an increase in DPS.

This is why a combination of the two should increase your damage beyond just the single stat boosts.

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But. . . the numbers Renta quoted show 30 Attack beating 20 STR in both minimum and maximum damage.

Fact of the matter is, nobody knows how Attack Power or STR effect the damage one does in explicit detail.

What we do know is that:

• both of them increase the damage done.
• one does not directly influence the other.

Anything beyond those 2 simple facts is a theory at best.