I take from that, that Yoshida doesn't get the appeal of Relic weapons... It's not having a "easy" option, it's about having something that progresses with you...Quote:
Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi
I don't give two shits about any other weapon in the game, because they'll all be thrown away when I replace them... Relics though? Those should stick with me... They've progressed with me through the patches, they're a better form of progression in this game than the bleedin' item level treash... The fact that he opened the Anima quest, with us literally destroying our Zeta weapons, is just hilariously bad...
I really wish they'd just give us more Relic style content... I don't want to do Gordias 9 times, get a tomestone weapon, then toss it when Midas replaces it... I want to upgrade that weapon, through that kind of process... I want that weapon to stick with me and grow... Relics are the only solid piece of progression I get out of this game, and Yoshida seems intent on making the process as utterly dull and mindless as possible...
WoW Legion uses FFXI style for relics but FFXIV does not?
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09-11-2016, 10:23 PMNalien
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09-11-2016, 10:24 PMLaylaTsarra
You do realize the relic upgrades right. The current Lore and POTD weapons will be obsolete pretty soon.
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09-11-2016, 10:26 PMZetsumei_Tsunarashi
I think the point of the relic is to be that end goal for casual players after playing through the whole expansion. Similarly to how getting the weapon at the end of the final raid is the end goal for people that raid. Its a big carrot on a stick for those who don't raid, to keep them interested in the game.
Honestly for me it does nothing to motivate me because in the end everything in this game just becomes a glamour item. I'd rather just go play a different game instead and come back to do the relic when I can finish the entire thing in a couple of days.
In other words, unless you need to have the weapon "right now", your effort is wasted. Your only real reward is a higher item level which unless you raid is irrelevant. So I feel the relic is a meaningless endeavor, as it fails to achieve its purpose in the first place. -
09-11-2016, 10:28 PMMagiusNecrosAnd come 4.0 with a new relic quest the Anima will be tossed aside and or be destroyed.Quote:
Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra
All your sentimentality for building a weapon, custom stats along with it, completely wasted.
Glamour trash.
Then have the relic quest at launch so you can build it throughout the expansion. Common sense. I mean come on now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi
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09-11-2016, 10:32 PMLaylaTsarraYeah well I understand that but that doesn't negate the fact that is upgrades this entire expansion. Should they toss it? I would prefer they didn't. As a matter of fact I would prefer they didn't nerf it period but for me at least it gives me something to do and it's something I want to do and it's something I don't think everyone should be able to have. The fact of the matter is tons of people are working on relic. Just look around. This forum however is a place where people traditionally fuss about the process. It's nothing new.Quote:
Originally Posted by MagiusNecros
I haven't invested time in POTD, I prefer to invest it in relic. I have lore weapons for my alt roles, and am currently working on my 3rd 240. -
09-11-2016, 10:33 PMNalienGoing to be pretty funny when we turn in the Anima weapons to the furnace to skip the 4.0 FATE grind, given the weapons are meant to be alive...Quote:
Originally Posted by MagiusNecros
I still think the Anima quest should have given us the option; Start a new Relic, or continue upgrading your Zeta... Just stick the "Customize Stats" stage at the front and we can skip over the first stage, and have a situation in which that stage isn't entirely irritating for some weapons... You'd get best stat options right off the bat, meaning no waiting for that addition, and no "Why do I need this stage? My Nothung already had Crit/Det!". Would have been nice to have some Legacy style dialog with the Anima, if we upgraded it from our Zeta weapons, since it would have been with us for longer... Shame nice touches like that seem beyond SE these days... -
09-11-2016, 10:38 PMMagiusNecros
INORITE! It's all padding for the sake of padding. Kinda funny too. Considering Yoshida was all apologetic way back about the Atma grind and that he would never do something like that again. And then comes the Anima Crystal grind...which is the same damn thing.
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09-11-2016, 10:42 PMLaylaTsarraNo it's not the same damn thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by MagiusNecros
The crystal grind this go around isn't bad for people leveling and the drop rate isn't all that bad. It's a far cry from pre-nerf ATMA. They can actually level an alternate role while working on relic. The weapon doesn't need to be equipped nor does one need to be on the role for which you are earning the relic which makes it pretty neat actually. Personally on my main I had/have enough zeta's so i could by pass that process but I was able to take advantage of it on an alt. It's like the complaints about Yokai but tons of people are leveling classes while doing the event and collecting medals. -
09-11-2016, 10:44 PMMagiusNecrosBut it is. Not as bad as last time is still bad as far as I'm concerned. Full stop. It's the same thing. Hope for a drop from different areas and turn them in. More tokens.Quote:
Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra
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09-11-2016, 10:51 PMLaylaTsarraI'm curious have you worked on relic? Do you have a zeta or the current relic and if so what stage are you on?Quote:
Originally Posted by MagiusNecros