Solving the Fire Mage Problem

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

Seems like it would change little to the current BLM playstyle.

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That's the point. The "rotation" is the same, it's just which elemental cycle you're using.
Rongway is suggesting a purely cosmetic change, while the dev in that old thread was suggesting a similar change to affect gameplay based on elemental needs and/or gear (because casting Fire against Ifrit seems silly). The resulting rotational output of their changes is essentially identical - they just made the suggestions for different reasons.

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Originally Posted by PhalanxField

That's the point. The "rotation" is the same, it's just which elemental cycle you're using.
Rongway is suggesting a purely cosmetic change, while the dev in that old thread was suggesting a similar change to affect gameplay based on elemental needs and/or gear (because casting Fire against Ifrit seems silly). The resulting rotational output of their changes is essentially identical - they just made the suggestions for different reasons.

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Essential glamour for spells isn't going to be considered I wager. I already think Egi glamour for SMN is idiotic. And look how long they are taking on that. Spell glamour is just going to make me cringe. There is altering a playstyle and then there is pure aesthetic appeal.

I can see it happening but the main draw here is the UI and AF stances.

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

Essential glamour for spells isn't going to be considered I wager. I already think Egi glamour for SMN is idiotic. And look how long they are taking on that. Spell glamour is just going to make me cringe. There is altering a playstyle and then there is pure aesthetic appeal.

I can see it happening but the main draw here is the UI and AF stances.

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Oh definitely. At best it would help the output of people that really want to be "Ice Mages." I personally don't care, either way. Dev-time would be better spent on other things.

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

Essential glamour for spells isn't going to be considered I wager. I already think Egi glamour for SMN is idiotic. And look how long they are taking on that. Spell glamour is just going to make me cringe. There is altering a playstyle and then there is pure aesthetic appeal.

I can see it happening but the main draw here is the UI and AF stances.

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What if I want Fire to be rainbows and Ice to be confetti and Thunder can be flowers?
I'd pay for those glamours.
Flare can just be sparkles.

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Originally Posted by FunkyBunch

What if I want Fire to be rainbows and Ice to be confetti and Thunder can be flowers?
I'd pay for those glamours.
Flare can just be sparkles.

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I need all my spells to just be confetti and heavenscrackers.

With 4.0 we may have an near unplayable level of skill bloat. At least game-pad users will suffer.

Why not have a Fire Rotation, a Ice Rotation and a Lightning rotation instead of adding 5-6 more buttons to your one single rotation.
Then have certain mobs resistant to certain elements so a clever BLM has to use the correct element for good damage.

Melee can have rotation build on blunt, piercing, slashing damage.

Spell glamour system...

Yeah who wants in in depth elemental system when you can just have glamours...ugh.

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Originally Posted by PhalanxField

This guy?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...hanges_slides/

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if they actually did this I'd resub.

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Originally Posted by Iromi

Spell glamour system...

Yeah who wants in in depth elemental system when you can just have glamours...ugh.

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Yeah I'm kinda getting tired of this shit.

To the person who literally goes to every thread and touts the fact that they don't play the game anymore and their sub is expired, no it isn't because you'd be locked out of the Forums first and foremost. Secondly, adding something like elemental weaknesses immediately causes far reaching balance issues through the entirety of the game. They release a boss with a Fire weakness. You're an Ice Mage? GTFO, we're only taking experienced Fire Mages. Saying that all melee jobs would have some form of elemental stance is also worthless, because all you're functionally doing is complicating the system. If everyone can do the specific type of damage, it's just needlessly adding something. It has zero value to combat functionality. If it's adding explicit implications in the form of enemy weaknesses, then it causes combat to be exclusionary. Figure it out.

If they added the glamour I suppose it'd be neat but ultimately arbitrary. As for the fa t that some are "tired of this ****" I'm sure everyone appreciates your valuable input.

Nope, this account isn't subbed anymore..but my main is cuz my friends pay for it so I can raid with them, but nice try? Lol.

And by saying I'd resub again I mean I would actually play like I used to. So I am still very much active...albiet just to help my friends, so again..maybe get more info before you go acting silly on the forums to a stranger :cool: