Really?! I mean is this a joke?

Gordian weapon is crit/det with high crit. They have no reason to put in two weapons with the same sub stats at the same ilvl tier.

That's unfortunately how it is. Some classes luck out and get BiS stats like Crit/DET (or Spell Speed for BLM) and others get weapons with bad secondary stat weights. Yeah, I know WD > all but still... I don't need any more Skill Speed on my daggers SE. Please.

At least they threw out Accuracy on weapons. Accuracy and Skill Speed on weapons were a godawful combination in 2.x.

Yes, it's a joke. The Anima shouldn't force us to start over like the relic and its Zenith state again. Should allow us to add custom stats from the beginning.

And these stupid wrong secondary stats on gears should be gone from the game, just go away for everyone's sake. NOBODY WANTS ACCURACY AND SKILL SPEED!

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Originally Posted by DragonSlayer45

At least they threw out Accuracy on weapons. Accuracy and Skill Speed were a godawful combination in 2.x.

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Actually I would rather have accuracy on my weapon... Considering weapons have slightly higher stat caps than body/legs (correct me if I'm wrong), getting a large dose of accuracy on the weapon, to me, means having more freedom when picking armor/accessories.

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Originally Posted by KitingGenbu

It would seem people forget that half the original relics in 2.X had trash stats for their classes.....But of course these would be different, right?

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To be fair, no-one really knew stats like that back then. That was when Parry was seen as a good stat to pursue xD

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Originally Posted by DkFusion

So after all this shining on PLD vs WAR vs DRK....here I am looking at the relics for each. WAR and DRK have crit/det on their weapons. PLD has low crit/high SS?!?!. Yes there is Det on the shield but its minor in comparison to almost 100 det on the others. How much more can PLD's get kicked while on the ground already?

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thordan weapon to the rescue! , Det and crit! , shield has parry and SS :(

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Originally Posted by Warlyx

thordan weapon to the rescue! , Det and crit! , shield has parry and SS :(

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I think the goal is to mix and match different weapons and shields at same ilvl? Not sure tho.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

Yes, it's a joke. The Anima shouldn't force us to start over like the relic and its Zenith state again. Should allow us to add custom stats from the beginning.

And these stupid wrong secondary stats on gears should be gone from the game, just go away for everyone's sake. NOBODY WANTS ACCURACY AND SKILL SPEED!

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So put what in its place? You can't put nothing, because then you're left with just Crit Det and then all gear variation is gone.

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Originally Posted by DragonSlayer45

That's unfortunately how it is. Some classes luck out and get BiS stats like Crit/DET (or Spell Speed for BLM) and others get weapons with bad secondary stat weights. Yeah, I know WD > all but still... I don't need any more Skill Speed on my daggers SE. Please.

At least they threw out Accuracy on weapons. Accuracy and Skill Speed on weapons were a godawful combination in 2.x.

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Just seems that the Paladin is the biggest loser from the HW expansion regarding tanks, undermining it further with the less then desirable stats on the relic.

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Originally Posted by Ashelia_Ferron

So put what in its place? You can't put nothing, because then you're left with just Crit Det and then all gear variation is gone.

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I agree. The answer isn't to remove stats, it's to add more functionality to stats. Make Skill/Spell speed increase the TP/MP regeneration rates. Make the parrying function apply an automatic counterattack. Make accuracy... Well, I've always thought accuracy should be melded together with Critical Hit Rate. Logically, the more accurate your strikes are, the more often you'll strike vital areas.