Lodestone Survey (unofficial Eorzean Census)

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Originally Posted by ExKage

How does the site determine active population? Can or does it differentiate from bots or RMT?

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Data is carried out based on the data from August 25, 2013 to August 8, 2015.

I intended for the character who was higher than level 21,that is get from Losestone charactor search page, in this survey.And narrowed charactor that change hp,minion count,mount count from last survey to regard as active charactor.

If you want to other world's report,Please change right top select menu "WORLD SELECT".

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Considering SE can't differentiate bots and RMT from real players, probably not. But aren't gil spammers level 1? If so, they're not counted as they have to be 21+.

Also DragonFlyy, if you let the page sit for awhile the info will fill up, or at least it did for me.

Active characters is also not the same thing as active subscribers. I have four active characters I bounce around, but only one subscription. Balmung's active character population can be cut by a third easily because of the rampant roleplay altaholism on that server. Some people have 5-6 characters!

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Originally Posted by Colorful

Considering SE can't differentiate bots and RMT from real players, probably not. But aren't gil spammers level 1? If so, they're not counted as they have to be 21+.

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The spammers in the town yes, but the bots no theyre anywhere between 1 and 60. So it would pick these up as 'active' perhaps.
Either that are their search refinement arent working, since how do so many players 21+ not have the airship minion yet? I can almost understand the cursor since you can get to 20 under trial and then still another 30 free days after that.

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Originally Posted by Colorful

Considering SE can't differentiate bots and RMT from real players, probably not. But aren't gil spammers level 1? If so, they're not counted as they have to be 21+.

Also DragonFlyy, if you let the page sit for awhile the info will fill up, or at least it did for me.

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Very much appreciate the translation!
It sounds like one survey was done previously? So I assume the first survey was done August 2013 and the new one is August 2015.
That seems like a large window of time as I know some people who leveled up multiple 50s and almost cleared T9 (before FCOB) before dropping the game (Period of 3 months ish). It seems from your translation of the criteria that they would still be considered active.

Gil spammers are the least of my worries on Balmung now. I haven't gotten one in over a month with around 6 hours of play a day average. I wonder what type of numbers we can say are real people and not bots.

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Originally Posted by Shori

Either that are their search refinement arent working, since how do so many players 21+ not have the airship minion yet?

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Is there more than one? I can't remember and the only one I remember is the minion from the artbook or other minion+merchandise.

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Originally Posted by ExKage

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Sorry for the misunderstanding, but it's not my translation. You can click the American flag icon on the top right to get the English version of the site, that's where I grabbed the translation from. ^^

As for when the last survey was taken, I've got no clue, the translation seems like something that was done with subpar knowledge of English, or a tool like Google translate so I don't know if it's very reliable. I don't know if the information is all too reliable either, it states that there's only about 7.5k max level battle classes on Tonberry at the moment. It seems like a very low number, but I'm not quite sure what the average for things like that are across MMOs.

Another interesting thing is that 67.6% of active members belong to FCs 1-3 members in size (on Tonberry) and I suppose the majority of those wouldn't have access to housing, so it's understandable why SE decided to let everyone have access to Airship Exploration, FC or not.

Interesting! I was guessing about 700k-800k players...lol @ the 5m...what is it they say, registered accounts? Heh. Still tho, 800k is pretty nice :D

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Originally Posted by ExKage

Very much appreciate the translation!
It sounds like one survey was done previously? So I assume the first survey was done August 2013 and the new one is August 2015.
That seems like a large window of time as I know some people who leveled up multiple 50s and almost cleared T9 (before FCOB) before dropping the game (Period of 3 months ish). It seems from your translation of the criteria that they would still be considered active.

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And narrowed charactor that change hp,minion count,mount count from last survey to regard as active charactor.

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If they haven't played since last survey they very likely won't be in it.

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Originally Posted by Shori

Either that are their search refinement arent working, since how do so many players 21+ not have the airship minion yet?

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JP servers have the lowest ratio of people with that minion but from what I heard no problems with RMT/botting? I don't think it's a good criteria for determining it at all.

Total amount of active characters 9. January - 20. April [difference to last survey]:
639585 [-131518]
226753 [- 51452] JP
290818 [- 55147] NA
122015 [- 24918] EU


A little race analysis based on the latest data:
http://i.imgur.com/VY8jjlN.png

Numbers of Hyur Highlander female are rough estimates since it doesn't pull the actual data for some reason. Average from highest and lowest populated server in each region.

How is it that Ninja ranks so low in population at 60 to the other classes? Ninja is a super popular archetype (akin to the WoW rogue which ironically became the least popular around cata due to gameplay vision changes).

I mean...NINJAS man. I'm just curious what's so unattractive about the FFXIV Ninja that seems to keep its players from growing like a fungus like most games with a similar class?

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Originally Posted by zipzo

How is it that Ninja ranks so low in population at 60 to the other classes? Ninja is a super popular archetype (akin to the WoW rogue which ironically became the least popular around cata due to gameplay vision changes).

I mean...NINJAS man. I'm just curious what's so unattractive about the FFXIV Ninja that seems to keep its players from growing like a fungus like most games with a similar class?

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They took Perfect Dodge away. *shrug*