Astrologians were fine the way they were!

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Originally Posted by Eudyptes

Just curious, where are sch's angry? Ast doesn't actually give them any competition still. Ast is the healer I enjoy playing the most, but it's still not up to par with the other two.

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AST's Nocturnal shields override SCH's Galvanize shields, and now shield MORE than a SCH's Galvanize.

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Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries

oh rly well so you want to have mitigation and heals on par with both sch and whm and on top of that cards , balanced.

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As if we could use diurnal and nocturnal at the same time...

Oh, do you know which Job can Shield and Regen at the same time? Scholar.

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Originally Posted by AlphaSonic

As if we could use diurnal and nocturnal at the same time...

Oh, do you know which Job can Shield and Regen at the same time? Scholar.

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regen what? any respecable scholar uses selene and not eos.

The potency buffs to Benefic I and II were unnecessary IMO. I think that they just didn't want to try to introduce more healing CDs.

Also possible that the base potency increase is intended more as an overall buff for Noct stance.

In any case I doubt that AST will become an automatic replacement for either healer; if players actually find themselves debating which 2 of the 3 healers to bring based on group comp, then AST will finally have arrived.

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Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries

oh rly well so you want to have mitigation and heals on par with both sch and whm and on top of that cards , balanced.

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But they still have fewer burst healing cooldowns, have fewer MP management options, and have more mana intensive DPS options. AST doesn't have everything the other healers have and the other healers don't have everything AST has. The only difference now is that the base healing kit is equal and AST's non-healing contributions are on par with the other two.

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Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries

regen what? any respecable scholar uses selene and not eos.

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Now, now, let's not overgeneralize. We already have a thread about why and when to use which one.

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Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries

AST potency buffs are uncalled for , other changes are fine and deserved but before the buffs the potency was the same with the sect bonus now its effectively higher than both whm and sch, that should not be the case in a HYBRID class, you should not be able to heal/shield more than your counterpart that SPECIALIZES on one sole aspect mitigation/burst healing

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I kind of agree. I didn't expect the buff on benefic and benefic II and I guess they were a nice help, but unnecessary. Aspected benefic the way it is now would suit the class just fine.
As for the other buffs, I liked them all. They were necessary and expected. I can't wait to play with these changes...

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Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries

regen what? any respecable scholar uses selene and not eos.

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I'm not talking about Whispering Dawn. I'm talking about the fact that your fairy is by itself a regen.

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Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries

regen what? any respecable scholar uses selene and not eos.

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That same argument can be used with Astrologian. Most will still probably use Diurnal because it's still more MP-efficient and pumps out the most healing. That means they won't have shields at all.

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Originally Posted by SenzorialBoundries

oh rly well so you want to have mitigation and heals on par with both sch and whm and on top of that cards , balanced.

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the thing is they are NOT on par.. is where i see you're confused, WHM is still a much more power fulburst healer, and SCH is still top mitigation healer. AS well as giving out great DPS numbers, AST still has trouble throwing out DPS numbers without eating a lot of MP, they don't have a pet to back them up.