Favors were not fixed!

On average you're still going to get 3-4 favor items per favor, giving you enough for 1.5-2 turn ins. If they were to signifcantly increase the yield more than it is, we'd have more gathered favor items than we would have crafting tokens.

The problem from my end was that I had to spend 15 minutes for one favor. That's 90 minutes on average to get enough materials to spend one crafting token to make one crafting material. Whereas the actual crafts themselves use anywhere from 3 to 5 of those materials. The amount of time you needed to invest between teh two was utterly skewed, and the 15 minutes made it not ideal to do your favors inbetween queues...or really do anything inbetween because now you have to spend the full 15 minutes just slamming away at the nodes.

Although the system is far from fixed, I'm hoping the reduced favor time will result in more people participating leading to more gathered items for sale on the MB.

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Originally Posted by chrillix

Although the system is far from fixed, I'm hoping the reduced favor time will result in more people participating leading to more gathered items for sale on the MB.

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But buying things would cut into the coveted 100% profit margin that is still objectively the only way anyone is allowed to do crafting!

I kid. Honestly, I'm still pretty sure Favors are meant as an upgrade to the old Ixali Oaknot/Ehcatl Sealant stimulus package the economy got back in 2.3, which for the average player meant selling pricey, time-limited materials in order to earn the gil to buy the finished products. Once I finish getting my last pieces of Miner gear, I, too, will be in on this, and lots of others as well, which ultimately means more supply for everyone, and more reasonable prices all around.

You don't need gear for favors, once my miner hit 60 and I could purchase favors I started doing botanist favors at 56. Access to lvl 60 nodes/red scrips are all that's required

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Originally Posted by Nomad-phx

You don't need gear for favors, once my miner hit 60 and I could purchase favors I started doing botanist favors at 56. Access to lvl 60 nodes/red scrips are all that's required

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Of course you don't. I know that, but given a choice between a gear upgrade I'll probably need at some point and items I can pretty much only sell right now, I'd rather take the gear, and I suspect that's the majority opinion right now. It will change once people have the gear and need something else to use red scrips on.

True true, my personal plan of attack at 3.05 was to just buy the main tools with tokens and craft the rest which was quickly derailed when one of my friends got his pickaxe which only increased his gathering on folklore nodes 3% higher than mine, plus the tremendously low perception cap for collectibles made me think "why even bother?" . the crafting however is different, higher the stats get closer we get to macro crafts again lol

The small amount of things you can craft per week is a feature of the system, not a bug. It's why it hasn't gone away.

I don't like it either, but they're pacing the rate you can make high level stuff with the rate you can get high level stuff through tomestones.

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Originally Posted by CGMidlander

Because you gained 7 hours to do other things? lol
There will probably be more changes in 3.1

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Eh, it's a bad idea to remain silent after they make a positive change. Better to voice what else you think is wrong, otherwise they'll probably think what they did is enough. SE can't read minds, they require feedback.

Imo they se should just say deal with it cuz honestly ur not gonna see a red scrip turn in nerf etc till 3.1^

question could I wear all SB gear minus main and offhand and still be able to effectively get favor mats? Does gp matter, gathering, perception etc? Sorry for the tangent but nomad mentioned it. I have just been hoarding.