Favors were not fixed!

[DarthBuzzer]

All that changed is that you now get an average of 140 favor items in 4 hours a week compared to 11 hours. The fundamental issue is still here. Crafters can only make a maximum of two 2 star items a week after doing 4 hours of favors and getting capped on scrips for both Crafters and Gatherers.

If this is the future of crafting, then it's looking very gloomy. It doesn't especially help that there are no useful items to be crafted either.

Only i180 gear should require red scrips, nothing else! Everything else should be uncapped and bought with blue scrips.

Fix this awful system, Square. We've been patient enough.

[Yumi_umi]

U need to be more positive imo this an AMAZING update.
I finished my bsm set + 3 accessories before this update and damn was i burnt the fck out from 11+ hours of gathering.
It was freaking ridiculous but now both parts feel pretty equal 5-10 mins of gathering to make 1 2star base material.

Im sure they will nerf the reqs etc for turn ins but ofc i agree beig limited to 2 major pieces a week is lame but still this means they r still improving it so its better than nothing.
Now i feel like favors is actually something a casual can do while waiting for DF vs committing 15mins of solod gathering.

[DarthBuzzer]

Why should I be positive? Crafting is as bad as it was before. I'm still limited to a finite number of 2 stars a week.

It's been a month now and nothing substantial has changed.

[Yumi_umi]

Why should I be positive? Crafting is as bad as it was before. I'm still limited to a finite number of 2 stars a week.

It means they r listening to ppl's feedback on favors = they will eventually rework the red scrips.
You can't have everything in 1 go.
I was planning on unsubbing from this ridiculous grind but now its leas of a grind and more of a just waiting for the reset on thurs. I rather have this then that painful 10+ hour favor grind nightmare.

[Bishop81]

Why should I be positive? Crafting is as bad as it was before. I'm still limited to a finite number of 2 stars a week.

It's been a month now and nothing substantial has changed.

A month? HA!

Don't be silly now. The time it takes for changes to happen in FFXIV is measured in "expansions".

[DarthBuzzer]

A month? HA!

Don't be silly now. The time it takes for changes to happen in FFXIV is measured in expansions.

Changing numbers and costs is a very small task. Square could fix everything in a hotfix if they wanted to. Obviously there would still be nothing useful to craft but this current flawed system would be fixed.

[Joronas]

Why do people persist in believing that recommitting to a bad system/idea/design over and over again is praiseworthy?

Now, we have gathering that's under even more of a time crunch then before -- with the exact same final output, except even more subject to RNG. Straight math people: the larger the sample size, the closer you get to the average. Cut the time to 1/3, cut the sample size to 1/3. Average serverwide/gamewide will work out, because the sample size is (SE hopes) huge. Your individual average? NOT the same thing. Streaks happen.

Now, those of you who point out that tripling the spawn rate will balance out those bad streaks .... not as much as you think. You'll still have your 0 node pops; just like you can have 8 80% failures in a row.

We'd hoped for fixes, not ramming the original favor system on speed...

[Iromi]

Yeah this is far from fixed.

I hate favors

[CGMidlander]

All that changed is that you now get an average of 140 favor items in 4 hours a week compared to 11 hours.

Why should I be positive? Crafting is as bad as it was before. I'm still limited to a finite number of 2 stars a week.

It's been a month now and nothing substantial has changed.

Because you gained 7 hours to do other things? lol
There will probably be more changes in 3.1

[Snugglebutt]

Favors have been 'improved', fixed is subjective to what each person ideally wants for themselves. There is no 100% fix for most things in this game (if not all things), favors included because people have different opinions on what they want to see happen. The latest favors change however is a very good thing for many people here, a good 'improvement'.