DX11 Reflections - Quality

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Originally Posted by Gralna

inb4 DX11 holding game back :P

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More like consoles holding game back.

Even with DX11 the game still looks like a console port to PC to me. Graphically certain parts it looks something towards Tome Raider rather than the more gorgeous Witcher 3.

But again IDK. Might have been multi cross platform too. I've played the FF15 demo and I feel that the graphics were better than Heavensward.

Move around / move the Camera and the Reflection of Animated Objects on the Ground is smooth. If you do not move the Camera or stand still, the Frames are low.

I noticed it in the last huge Zone with all those spinning huge Objects and you can clearly try it out there.

I know reflections can reduce FPS but not by 25/25%. It can increase the number of things to draw by 100% for sure if it's done as a true reflection, but even then the performance hit on a modern card with FFXIV's graphics would not struggle - just look at games like Crysis with reflections and we can run that at 60FPS+ on modern hardware.

Also, years and years ago I used to mod for Star Trek: Elite Force and also Jedi Academy which both could do true reflections (including characters and their weapon effects) - and that was back in the 280 days!
http://i.imgur.com/an05rTT.jpg

Basically: give us an option to chose the performance hit ourselves because those reflections are ugly!

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Originally Posted by Ooshima

More like consoles holding game back.

Even with DX11 the game still looks like a console port to PC to me. Graphically certain parts it looks something towards Tome Raider rather than the more gorgeous Witcher 3.

But again IDK. Might have been multi cross platform too. I've played the FF15 demo and I feel that the graphics were better than Heavensward.

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You got to be kidding me, am I playing a different version or something? There's something wrong on your end, has to be

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Originally Posted by Wade

I know reflections can reduce FPS but not by 25/25%. It can increase the number of things to draw by 100% for sure if it's done as a true reflection, but even then the performance hit on a modern card with FFXIV's graphics would not struggle - just look at games like Crysis with reflections and we can run that at 60FPS+ on modern hardware.

Also, years and years ago I used to mod for Star Trek: Elite Force and also Jedi Academy which both could do true reflections (including characters and their weapon effects) - and that was back in the 280 days!
http://i.imgur.com/an05rTT.jpg

Basically: give us an option to chose the performance hit ourselves because those reflections are ugly!

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I'm not seeing anything like that, at all

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Originally Posted by Sartori

You got to be kidding me, am I playing a different version or something? There's something wrong on your end, has to be

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You need to play some graphical games and open up your horizon, not me lol.

Have you tried other game's benchmarks at the very least? Graphically speaking Heavensward is nowhere top tier.

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Originally Posted by Ooshima

More like consoles holding game back.

Even with DX11 the game still looks like a console port to PC to me. Graphically certain parts it looks something towards Tome Raider rather than the more gorgeous Witcher 3.

But again IDK. Might have been multi cross platform too. I've played the FF15 demo and I feel that the graphics were better than Heavensward.

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Different engines (and a 10 year Dev cycle haha) between XIV and XV, also XIV is now 2 years old compared to Witcher 3 thats like a few months old.

Also console (PS3) is probably using OpenGL or something like that not DirectX, dont know about PS4 but I'd assume its the same unless they got DX to run on it.

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Originally Posted by Ooshima

You need to play some graphical games and open up your horizon, not me lol.

Have you tried other game's benchmarks at the very least? Graphically speaking Heavensward is nowhere top tier.

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My graphical Horizon's have been open for years, I don't man I don't get it how you guys can complain about the graphics in this game....

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Originally Posted by Sartori

My graphical Horizon's have been open for years, I don't man I don't get it how you guys can complain about the graphics in this game....

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Exactly I'm on PS3 and it even looks pretty damn impressive on that especially The Shroud/Dravianian Chocobo Forest (the SSD helps alot though, 4x better load times, quicker character/asset loads in open-world and draw distancing seems better to).
I've seen the Dx9 build on friends PC's and it looks even better as I'd expect, yet to test DX11 myself though.

About his image:

http://techraptor.net/wp-content/upl...ison-FFXIV.jpg

But this is not still implemented? Because i don't see it..
(i have a 970)