Shots Fired: A Machinist Guide

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Originally Posted by Unaki

The point of Promotion is to ensure your party can keep fighting and dishing out DPS. Yes you are a DPS class and yes you need to be doing sufficient damage but if you're out of TP or MP or any of your group are then you're losing a lot more DPS by waiting for regen.

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Yes but you are still "losing dps" much like a bard, just not directly on your character.

I haven't fully done the math for it yet, but the amount of oGCDs you have to fit in makes it really difficult to get off all your buffs off, because without Rapid Fire, Hot Shot + Lead Shot + Split Shot gain cast time making it impossible to weave any oGCDs and you have to get off Wildfire, Dex Pot, Blood for Blood, Gauss Round, Head Graze, Ricochet, Reassemble, Blank. Using Rapid Fire takes away the cast time for Hot Shot/Lead Shot which allows you to get off some of these buffs and assuming you can fit in 2 oGCDs, there is not much you can get off before Raging Strikes/Hawk's Eye is gone. I'm not too sure about Quick Reload where it is right now, it's present to refresh the stacks of Ammunition you have while having a lower cooldown on Reload. I do think that Reload is best used pre-pull as the difference in Potency will be minimum for getting the procs off on Split/Slug/Clean Shot, because the increase is 140 to 180 to 200, and you'll have Reload up soon anyways.

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Originally Posted by Cascadi

Using Rapid Fire takes away the cast time for Hot Shot/Lead Shot which allows you to get off some of these buffs and assuming you can fit in 2 oGCDs, there is not much you can get off before Raging Strikes/Hawk's Eye is gone. I'm not too sure about Quick Reload where it is right now, but I do think that Reload is best used pre-pull as the difference in Potency will be minimum for getting the procs off on Split/Slug/Clean Shot, because the increase is 140 to 180 to 200, where as if you can fit in for example, Blank, it's 100 potency with the buffs active.

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You use Reload for the 100% proc chance on Split and Slug shot, not the +20 potency.

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Originally Posted by SasakiNori

You use Reload for the 100% proc chance on Split and Slug shot, not the +20 potency.

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Yes, the potency I was referring to was the 140 potency of Split Shot vs 180 Potency of Slug Shot + potential 200 Potency of Clean Shot which is the extra proc you would get if you put in Quick Reload later in the Opener.

Can't lie this entire guide and rotation is really daunting, but it will sure help.

Good job.

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Originally Posted by Cascadi

Yes, the potency I was referring to was the 140 potency of Split Shot vs 180 Potency of Slug Shot + potential 200 Potency of Clean Shot which is the extra proc you would get if you put in Quick Reload later in the Opener.

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If you use Reload pre-pull you'll be losing out on 2 procs cause it'll trigger on Lead Shot and Hot Shot?

My on paper rotation so far would look like this:


Turret pre-pull > Rapid Fire/HE/RS > Hot Shot > B4B/Hypercharge > Leadshot > Wildfire/Reload > Split Shot > Gauss Round/Blank > Slug Shot > Ricochet/Reassemble > Clean Shot > Head Graze/Quick Reload > Split Shot > Slug Shot > Ricochet > Split Shot > Clean Shot > Slug Shot

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Originally Posted by DubiousDisk

Can't lie this entire guide and rotation is really daunting, but it will sure help.

Good job.

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Its daunting yes but like any rotation it will become muscle memory.

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Originally Posted by SasakiNori

If you use Reload pre-pull you'll be losing out on 2 procs cause it'll trigger on Lead Shot and Hot Shot?

My on paper rotation so far would look like this:


Turret pre-pull > Rapid Fire/HE/RS > Hot Shot > B4B/Hypercharge > Leadshot > Wildfire/Reload > Split Shot > Gauss Round/Blank > Slug Shot > Ricochet/Reassemble > Clean Shot > Head Graze/Quick Reload > Split Shot > Slug Shot > Ricochet > Split Shot > Clean Shot > Slug Shot

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You'd lose out on 2 procs in exchange for 24 second faster Reload.

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Originally Posted by Cascadi

You'd lose out on 2 procs in exchange for 24 second faster Reload.

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That way reassemble doesn't line up with Reload for the guaranteed Clean Shot crit tho.

Also wouldn't you rather use Rapid Fire at your "4 secs Pre-pull segment" rather than HE or RS?

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Originally Posted by SasakiNori

That way reassemble doesn't line up with Reload for the guaranteed Clean Shot crit tho.

Also wouldn't you rather use Rapid Fire at your "4 secs Pre-pull segment" rather than HE or RS?

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I placed Rapid Fire later rather than earlier so that it'll line up with Wildfire later. Reassemble does line up with Reload for the guaranteed Clean Shot crit, here is a document with when the buff cooldowns are available. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing