How FFXIV will force people to level in new map more than run FATE (and bot) in NT

From my understanding of the rumors leveling 50 to 60 will fell like leveling 20 to 50. that's a hell of a FATE GRIND. And the reason for this is they don't want ppl to blow threw the expansion in a week. However ppl will play as they want to, more to them. No one really has any answers any way its all just speculation.

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Originally Posted by Shori

I much prefer that there is choice of how we wish to level, otherwise newer areas will be overcrowded and there will be no variation in player's individual style.
Im glad we dont have a WoW clone (not that i can even recall an exp cap per area for the very breif time i played it), its Final Fantasy and i like it that way.

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This. I am hoping we can level off the highly level mobs like they showed in the tour video with a small group. :) The more choices the better!

For a lv51+ job FATEs in the new zones will give more exp than FATEs in Mor Dhona.
Like for a lv46+ job FATEs in Mor Dhona give more exp than FATEs in North Thanalan or Central Coerthas

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Originally Posted by Grey_Cain

Bots will bot, no matter the zone. If it isn't N. Than., they'll go for S. Than. If not S. Than, then W. La Noscea. Botters are more likely to go to areas with fewer players, and if that just so happens to be N. Than, then it just means that nobody cares about it anymore (actually, on Ultros really nobody cares because everyone just stays in Coerthas to 50). If you happen to want to level where the botters are, the best you can do is report them and take advantage of not having to solo the FATEs.

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I doubt you will see them at FATEs, they already have an easier/less visible/faster way of doing it; position hacking in dungeons.

How many level <15 bots do you see in the starter zones with the AFK chair symbol killing mobs?
How many do you see level 15+?

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Originally Posted by Dragoon4life

From my understanding of the rumors leveling 50 to 60 will fell like leveling 20 to 50. that's a hell of a FATE GRIND. And the reason for this is they don't want ppl to blow threw the expansion in a week. However ppl will play as they want to, more to them. No one really has any answers any way its all just speculation.

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They are introducing Alexander after 2 weeks, so they expect a large number of people to be 60 by that time. Between daily and weekly bonuses, main story quests, and new dungeons, it should be pretty easy to hit 60 before then.

If you were to follow the values that were data-mined for the exp curve from 50-60, I wouldn't think just hanging in Northern Thanalan would be the greatest of ideas.

For context, from 1-50, you need to earn a cumulative 8.2 million points of exp.

If the values found are to be true, to go from 50-60 is about 10.5 million points of exp. That is more than double the road to 50 from 1! Not to mention that until you get your first level 60, you are also losing on your passive 50% exp bonus. Overall, you'd probably be better off just hitting the new content, at least for your first level 60. If you follow the main scenario, grind out a couple of the dungeons, and hit each questing zone, you'd probably be hitting it pretty naturally.

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Originally Posted by HorseBoots

For context, from 1-50, you need to earn a cumulative 8.2 million points of exp.

If the values found are to be true, to go from 50-60 is about 10.5 million points of exp.

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Level 1-30 is 1.3M exp, 30-40 is almost 2.3M exp
Level 1-40 is 3.6M exp, 40-50 is almost 4.7M exp

The exp you get from killing stuff, doing FATEs, doing leves scales up as you level, so it softens the blow. The reason 40-50 felt so rough was that the MSQ sputters there and only covers a small fraction of your exp, while it was enough to cover the bulk of it at lower levels.

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

The exp you get from killing stuff, doing FATEs, doing leves scales up as you level, so it softens the blow. The reason 40-50 felt so rough was that the MSQ sputters there and only covers a small fraction of your exp, while it was enough to cover the bulk of it at lower levels.

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The problem is that you only earn so much exp from FATEs and Leves of lower level before you just have to retire a zone and move on. But I think we're also going a little off-top from what OP wanted. Jumping straight into the new zones and leveling there will clear a multitude of goals all at once. You are clearing the MSQ (A claimed 50 hours in length.) Attuning to the new camps for teleporting. Unlocking the ability to fly in each of the new zones (You can not fly immediately upon entering one.) Unlocking new dungeons for later roulette, etc. I mean, if you REALLY want to just bot in N. Than from 50-60. You're still entitled to do so. I think it's dumb, but you can.

I forgot about there being unmapped zones, clearing an entire map gets you 10% (?) of a level iirc, it's 0.5% for each of the 10 pieces, then 5% for the whole thing. So that's about 1 level just exploring the new areas.

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Originally Posted by Dragoon4life

From my understanding of the rumors leveling 50 to 60 will fell like leveling 20 to 50. that's a hell of a FATE GRIND. And the reason for this is they don't want ppl to blow threw the expansion in a week. However ppl will play as they want to, more to them. No one really has any answers any way its all just speculation.

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Its more of 1-50 cuz you know its a kind of a brand new game?
Itd be bad game design if it was just "another normal" 10 levels.
Only a few will be level 60 in a few days as they will have grinded their eyes out. No time to waste in new dungeons as they r new = wipe fest cuz mechanics too hard.

Ugh... reading some of these posts, along with the OPs suggestion reminds me of how horrible it was during the first several months. FATE groups trying to be fully efficient by leaving active FATEs once they hit a likely gold status, which after 20+ people participated, left a couple people to die to the remaining FATE that's been buffed to cater to a much larger crowd. It was really stupid to watch in some cases. Some groups went to such extremes that they'd leave every single FATE... then just wait by the Aetheryte until they all failed. Standing around idling for 5+ minutes isn't exactly what I'd call being efficient when it comes to exp grinds.

I think I'm gonna skip the rush completely if it turns out to be like that again. Just gonna level up crafting and gathering. Maybe level other stuff during off hours and through any daily bonus dungeons there may be. Maybe even try to find traditional exp party spots, assuming there are any decent ones.