Most Hated: GLA Vs MRD

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

Umm. . .

You sure about that?

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Nice find.
I'd like to see numbers for weapon skills though.

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Originally Posted by Holyomen

Nice find.
I'd like to see numbers for weapon skills though.

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For most of the weapon skills, it's just whatever damage is done. He does admit he hasn't tested the ones that specify that they add enmity, though.

Just looking at Disorient already makes me question that table.

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Originally Posted by KumaAkuma

Just looking at Disorient already makes me question that table.

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Well, go out and test it yourself, then. Use Disorient on an enemy, and let a mage poke at it until they take aggro. . .

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Originally Posted by KumaAkuma

Just looking at Disorient already makes me question that table.

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Disorient generates a decent amount of hate.

My MRD holds hate a lot better than my GLA. My MRD can also take more of a beating than my GLD. <3 Disorient!

MRD wins on Ogre because the majority of his attacks are TP moves and you are allowed to be stationary the entire fight. This negates the advantages of a shield (blocking normal attack dmg and landing Phalanx) and highlights the advantages of steadfast (increased parry rate, enmity, and fracture).

GLA wins on Batraal because many of his attacks are regular attacks and you are constantly required to move around dodging ghosts and lasers. This highlights the advantages of a shield and negates the advantages of steadfast.

In general, GLA > MRD for pure survivability (shield, native Sentinel, high mp pool) while MRD > GLA for higher enmity and damage output (steadfast, better WS, high HP). But other than those minor differences both classes do just fine and will probably have a nearly identical skillset.

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Originally Posted by KumaAkuma

Just looking at Disorient already makes me question that table.

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Disorient has nearly half the recast time as Provoke but more than half the enmity generation. I'd say that's pretty darn good.

From what I've seen, if disorient doesnt land it generates no hate. So thats really the only downside to disorient.

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Originally Posted by Holyomen

Sorry to disappoint, this isn't another complaint thread.

Who can generate the most hate?
Let's take a look at the match-up.

Gladiator
Heavy Slash
Heavy Stab
Provoke
Phalanx
Riot Blade

Marauder
Full Swing
Steadfast
Defender
Disorient
Warmonger
Storm's Path
Intimidation

In a practical situation both will be able to use many skills that the other class has, so I highlighted the ones that are unique.

Although Riot Blade builds a ton of hate, it cannot be used often due to it's recast time and the 2000+ TP cost. So Marauder has the upper hand using Storm's Path with it's 1500 TP cost and 10 second recast.

But, if the Gladiator is able to time their shield skills so at least one of them is always up, they may actually not only build more hate with Phalanx, but also out damage a Marauder. Phalanx comes at a mere cost of 250TP and a 5 second recast for a decent amount of damage. Although it may not build more hate than Storm's Path, it could be used much more often during a fight.

So in the battle of GLA Vs MRD, the Sentinel wins!

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forgot sentinel and war drum

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Originally Posted by kro

MRD wins on Ogre because the majority of his attacks are TP moves and you are allowed to be stationary the entire fight. This negates the advantages of a shield (blocking normal attack dmg and landing Phalanx) and highlights the advantages of steadfast (increased parry rate, enmity, and fracture).

GLA wins on Batraal because many of his attacks are regular attacks and you are constantly required to move around dodging ghosts and lasers. This highlights the advantages of a shield and negates the advantages of steadfast.

In general, GLA > MRD for pure survivability (shield, native Sentinel, high mp pool) while MRD > GLA for higher enmity and damage output (steadfast, better WS, high HP). But other than those minor differences both classes do just fine and will probably have a nearly identical skillset.



Disorient has nearly half the recast time as Provoke but more than half the enmity generation. I'd say that's pretty darn good.

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not to mention that glad has all the extra stats that come with he shield.