HQing 3 Star 40 Durability Materials?

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Originally Posted by Grimmel

Yeah x_x.. I just remembered they had 80 durability. Though if I were to use the macro for the Lucis tools, I still run out of CP. D: And I eat an HQ Bouil and have 395 CP.

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Did you have enough Tricks of Trade used? Sometimes depending on the action taken or the amount of good condition for you to ToT, even with 395 CP you won't have enough for the entire rotation. This is somehow normal if you have enough just for 3star, when you get enough craftsman/control they will compensate enough that you won't need that much CP to get 100% anymore.

If you want the 3star 80 dura, it should be roughly something like this. You will require the following:
- At least 3-4 tricks to ensure enough CP, the more the better
- 2 Comfort Zone, use second time when there are no steady hands buff up as early possible.
- In order, Piece by Piece twice, then Ingenuity II, lastly Careful Synth II 3 times.

The macro roughly looks something like this, might not be accurate so if it does try changing certain steps. Hope it helps.

Edit : What LineageRazor posted are true especially the 'baiting' part, sometimes even if you have 10 IQ stack but your byregot is normal condition you will only end up at most 60 to 70% HQ which is still risky. Also true on the macro part, I merely posted them just so you can grasp the idea of how the flow of the rotation you should be following and don't follow exactly where the tricks of trades are in the macro either as I added them in steps where there are no steady hands buff up. Anyway, as long as you know the CP management thing you should be fine with lower CP.

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----Macro 1----
/ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
/ac "Tricks of the Trade" <wait.2>
/ac "Inner Quiet" <wait.2>
/ac "Piece by Piece" <wait.3>
/ac "Piece by Piece" <wait.3>
/ac "Tricks of the Trade" <wait.2>
/ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
/ac "Tricks of the Trade" <wait.2>
/ac "Master's Mend II" <wait.3>
----Macro 2----
/ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
/ac "Master's Mend" <wait.3>
/ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
/ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
/ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
/ac "Ingenuity II" <wait.2>
/ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
/ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>

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Originally Posted by ZephyrZ

which leads me to believe that you just wanted a quick answer without even trying it yourself. Yes it is alright to ask for help, advice, and even full rotations as you did but going by that logic, it is also my right to refuse such a request, i don't understand why others' humor those such as yourself who don't even try but to each his own.

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This whole premise is based on the assumption that he didn't try already which at the moment of posting you have no way of confirming either way. Your logic doesn't make you clever. It just makes you smug. If you don't feel like helping people what is the point of even posting that you don't want to help people. I don't get it.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrZ

In english, the reason i didn't help you is simple. Your question didn't make sense. The ONLY 40 durability 3 star recipe are the Lucis Token, which leads me to believe that you just wanted a quick answer without even trying it yourself. Yes it is alright to ask for help, advice, and even full rotations as you did but going by that logic, it is also my right to refuse such a request, i don't understand why others' humor those such as yourself who don't even try but to each his own.

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I have tried before. It is also easy to forget something like if a synth is 40 or 80 Durability when a lot of mats that are a precursor; such as Cobalt Ingots, Electrum Ingots, ect are all 40 Durability, not 80 Durability like the Wolfram or Ancient Lumber. I was also not in game at the time of posting the question so I was unable to actually look.

I do a lot of crafting for my Free Company and have crafted very few items requiring Wolfram Ingots; Mainly just furniture items that didn't need HQ so I never bothered until yesterday to try to see if I can HQ. So yes, I did try on my own. I always try to do something on my own first to see if it's something I can figure out; but with how prices are on Balmung and the fact I am low on gil, I don't want to continuously waste my resources with trial and error.

Quite honestly your first response told me everything I need to know about how you don't like lending a helping hand and always seem to think those who try to reach out for help haven't tried everything in the book yet before they seek out guidance.

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Originally Posted by PariSexus

This whole premise is based on the assumption that he didn't try already which at the moment of posting you have no way of confirming either way. Your logic doesn't make you clever. It just makes you smug. If you don't feel like helping people what is the point of even posting that you don't want to help people. I don't get it.

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Honestly this... He assumed I hadn't tried before hand and that's what I don't like.. He not only assumed once, but twice. Even after my first response to him when I said I had tried it, he again stated. "Guess you haven't tried it yourself." Which quite frankly He should learn to read and not jump to conclusions. It just makes him sound like he's flaunting and taunting with knowing a good macro and doesn't feel like sharing just to top off the jerk attitude he's been displaying towards me.

Edit: Now I'd like to make an assumption. That he's someone whose been playing for a while, but got banned from the forums for the same attitude he's displaying here so he decided to make an alt account just to post more of his harassing dialect.
See how I made an assumption on information I don't readily know? That's what you're doing Zeph.

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Originally Posted by Grimmel

It just makes him sound like he's flaunting and taunting with knowing a good macro

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Zephyr's a jerk, we all know that.. but he knows his stuff..

Basically the quote above, there's no macro for 3 star + crafts. You CAN use one that will result in 60-70% hq rate, but doing so manually will net you near 100%. People have posted rotations here so far and any of those should work.. just practice some more with wolfram ingots, you can even make terminus putty because nq terminus putty should still net you some profit depending on your server's economy and profit = free practice. Just work out the kinks and you'll get it down in no time.


Regarding Zephyr's assumptions, if it sounded like you were talking about the lucis tokens, I can understand why he wouldn't have an answer for you because.. well, lucis tokens are just so mind numbingly boring/easy (not the rotation, just how little you lose for failing it.. like 5000gil a try?)

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Originally Posted by Grimmel

Edit: Now I'd like to make an assumption. That he's someone whose been playing for a while, but got banned from the forums for the same attitude he's displaying here so he decided to make an alt account just to post more of his harassing dialect.
See how I made an assumption on information I don't readily know? That's what you're doing Zeph.

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I wouldn't doubt it with how much of an ass he is :D hell I got my own perma banned for giving someone a hard time about their atrocious spelling/grammar. The forum rules are a joke tbh.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrZ

EDIT 2: Why does it say you are on Zalera but you say you're on Balmung

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My main is Loki Bludcraven; He's on Balmung.