Was it confirmed today that the DirectX 11 features won't be on the PS4 client?

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Originally Posted by Cutie_McSnuggles

I've tried to keep my ears open on information about this but as far as I know Square has said nothing about the PS4 version getting any sort of upgrade. However the hardware can handle an upgrade. It's just a matter of whether or not Square thinks it's worth it to do so.

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I think its more about how difficult doing it would be vs the investment. despite it having a decent shelf life the PS4 is still a limited set of hardware, therefore they have to decide if the time needed to impliment such features that will most likely give the system a performance hit would be worth it.

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Originally Posted by SecretCrowds

Oh my gosh. Please stop saying PS4 doesn't use DX. PS4 does use DX! DX11.1 to be exact. It is built from the DX11 with modifications and improvements from Sony.

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it isn't exactly DirectX11.1, their tools have feature sets from DX11.1 but it is not exactly DirectX. but their tools are also built from features from OpenGL(I forget what version) and some of their own feature sets. sony's tools for the PS4 are rather impressive, you should look em up.

The graphics on PS4 are already optimized for PS4

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Originally Posted by raelgun

Its all what is determined by acceptable performance hits, due to the PS4 getting no upgrades for hardware, theres no point adding features that returns the PS4 gaming experience back to the PS3 levels, performance that SE in fairness whats rid of.

Low end PCs can always be upgraded and components are not expensive for mid end gaming.

The main advantage the PS4 has over the PS3 is not graphics, it is sustained higher frame rates so that they can do content with less likely hood of being excluded from groups due to performance lag/stutter.

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DirectX 11 is actually a lot more streamlined than DX9. If it was brought to the PS4 the game would actually run better, not worse.

Feature Set. Important word.

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Originally Posted by BristolRuss

DirectX 11 is actually a lot more streamlined than DX9. If it was brought to the PS4 the game would actually run better, not worse.

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Theres a problem with this you are not looking into, a more stream lined process gives a few things, either make it more efficient at the same visuals so more FPS or crank up the settings a bit more at the same FPS or lower FPS, now this depends on the settings to use, tesselation would consume all the GPU grunt the PS4 has, and the shadows also have an impact on CPU in which the APU in the PS4 is rather weak on at the moment.

It is far better to squeeze more FPS so that FPS stays closer to 60 FPS more of the time then up the graphics for more dips, this is a team based game, more performance is important, people will get annoyed just like they are currently at the PS3 players for the extra 'lag' they comes from it.

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Originally Posted by raelgun

It is far better to squeeze more FPS so that FPS stays closer to 60 FPS more of the time then up the graphics for more dips, this is a team based game, more performance is important, people will get annoyed just like they are currently at the PS3 players for the extra 'lag' they comes from it.

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this I totally agree with.
slightly off topic but appropriate I think. I was telling a friend the other day I honestly think SE should have dumbed down the graphics on the PS3 a bit to gain FPS and save a little on memory. maybe it's just me but I think it could have worked better that way.

Direct X is software that provides a framework for developers to access certain hardware featues more easily. The fact thst Direct X 11 is more efficient is Due to the libraries opening up more GPU features to developers. The same hardware features can be driven be any other equivalent API library, such as OpenGL. DirctbX is an MS specific graphics library designed to allow Windows developers to talk to the hardware better. It is not hardware, and in no way is it intrinsicly better than any other software. It doesn't mater whether or not PS4 directly supporstbDirect X calls or not, the underlying hardware features are present and may be accessed just as easily using Open GL.

The only impact of Direct X on PS4 is that the PS4 may perform better just as modern PCs should, since the use of the GPU under Direct X uses more advanced features allowing the PS4 version to similarly make better use of the GPU resources it has.

YoshiP said in an interview ( in Japanese ) that the PS4 *would* eventually support the Direct X 11 features:

http://www.4gamer.net/games/199/G019...7/index_3.html

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ちなみに，DirectX 11で使われる表現や処理が，今後，PlayStation 4版に反映されることはありますか？

吉田氏：
　やろうと思えばできますが，やるべきかどうかをいま検証中です。というのも，（PS4は）まだPCほどこなれていない部分もあるので，そのままコードが使えるかどうかが分かりません。いずれ対応していくとは思いますが，いきなり全部対応させようとするとバグの発生が怖いので，順を追ってにしようと考えています。

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Translation:

By the way, will the graphics and routines used by DirectX 11 be applied to the PlayStation 4 as well?

YoshiP:
We can quickly port those features, but we're currently looking into whether or not we should. The reason is that not having as much expertise ( with the PS4 ) as we do with PC, we're not sure we can use the code as-is. I think we'll eventually do it, but I'm concerned that if we try and port everything at once it'll lead to bugs, so we'll go step by step.
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So, the problem is the *when*...