Please Fix Slaughter

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Originally Posted by Sen_Terrechant

rofl you honestly think there is win trading going on in Slaughter?

I swear some peoples delusions go deep.

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You should read his other post in another thread... just as ridiculous:

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Originally Posted by RobinRethiel

Just remove achievements and mounts or make them buyable otherwise. PvP will be gone then anyway (it even now almost is, you can't enter arena and frontlines take forever). How many are playing them for fun?

PvP is full of bots, win traders, leechers, roulette players (since 100/40 a day in a few minutes is nice to have), who don't care and even cheaters (no, I won't link to hacks, but of course EVERY MMO got them). This just means: it's no PvP at all...

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Originally Posted by Niroken

There is no avoiding getting double teamed with three factions when participating in battle. If two factions are fighting with each other the third faction has to pick one, if the third faction divides up then the other two faction will focus on them as they have the numbers advantage (higher success rate), thus being teamed by the other two factions. The only way a faction can avoid getting double teamed is if they remove themselves entirely from battle making the other two factions fight each other, in which case generally the faction that retreats loses due to lack of points.

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It's not that you can completely avoid getting double teamed. That's not what he is trying to say.

You have to divide your forces. You have to attack both sides equally and not give up ground. It is the positioning of your raid that makes you the most susceptible. If you are spread out then you look like a bigger force and will naturally keep the other teams backed off. If you shrink into a tiny cluster then teams will close in because you look small and weak. This is basic strategy. This is mother nature. This is why guys stick out their chests and stretch like gorillas when they see a good looking girl.

Until the day that premades of more than, say, 3-4 people aren't matched up against randoms anymore, I support nerfing Cometeor. That 5 second LB immunity after getting hit by an LB someone suggested in this thread sounded rather good to me. That way, Cometeor can stay strong and really useful when used correctly, while removing the cheap instant kill crap premades are so happily abusing all over the place.

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Originally Posted by Riepah

Until the day that premades of more than, say, 3-4 people aren't matched up against randoms anymore, I support nerfing Cometeor. That 5 second LB immunity after getting hit by an LB someone suggested in this thread sounded rather good to me. That way, Cometeor can stay strong and really useful when used correctly, while removing the cheap instant kill crap premades are so happily abusing all over the place.

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Would that apply per faction or per character? I can see a huge amount of whining if one GC didnt get a load of kills because they cast thier LB on a low hp group immune to LBs from the other GCs cometeor

I'm not arguing for or against this, just food for thought on the idea

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Originally Posted by Sen_Terrechant

rofl you honestly think there is win trading going on in Slaughter?

I swear some peoples delusions go deep.

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Exactly, like some pvp shadow organization governs the Slaughter queue lol. Until they apply ranked matches, there's no reason premades and pugs should be separated. I repeat; WHINER THREAD ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The most interesting thing is that it doesn't matter what you do for the first 100 points, any team that is doing well at the start will get double-teamed and wiped, multiple times if needed.

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Originally Posted by Niroken

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I agree that at times double teaming seems to be just random trolling. But like I said before majority of the time the team getting doubleteamed had it coming.

You're a dps right: a BLM. You burn an entire MP worth of Fire 1s on a target but they don't die - you switch to a new target - you switch until you find one that isn't getting healed through your damage or is too stupid to not break range.

Now imagine all 50+ dps in the match doing the exact same target cycling. Evantually the needle drops.

one thing i have noticed on the PVP threads when you bring up the fact it is broken or point out premeds are causing th fights to become unfair the same 3 people scream WHINER ALERT and they normally go with the pre-mades to the point where they have a lot of wins, they are wining so hard it has locked other threads up because of it because they don't want to have a chance of losing there shallow victory,

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Originally Posted by DracotheDragon

one thing i have noticed on the PVP threads when you bring up the fact it is broken or point out premeds are causing th fights to become unfair the same 3 people scream WHINER ALERT and they normally go with the pre-mades to the point where they have a lot of wins, they are wining so hard it has locked other threads up because of it because they don't want to have a chance of losing there shallow victory,

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Thats because, one: we're beating a dead horse. There are already dozens of threads about Slaughter being broken, and on top of this, no one has constructive criticism, its just "waaa! waaa! I keep losing! Slaughter sucks!" And two: the people that are whining about premades and slaughter in some cases are just lazy. Premades arent unfair, and if you're tired of losing to them make your own, and if you're not proactively trying to lead your team and expecting a win you dont deserve a comment because you arent even trying.

Premades are not unfair but I feel that the main issue is Cometeor-in-nearly-all-caster premades. My group does really well in Slaughter but it is still a problem that needs to be addressed.