Goad

Last few times I asked for Goad, all I heard from the Ninja was "oh, I gave it to the Bard"

Just saying... Not like Bards have Invigorate y'know, and TP song.. <_<

Since Goad doesnt have any detrimental effects like bards tp song and doesnt require timing like invigorate i just basically always give it to someone when its off CD.

It also might encourage the warrior to spam some additional overpowers to add extra aoe dps.

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Originally Posted by ChaozK

Since Goad doesnt have any detrimental effects like bards tp song and doesnt require timing like invigorate i just basically always give it to someone when its off CD.

It also might encourage the warrior to spam some additional overpowers to add extra aoe dps.

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And also to keep hate on the mobs overall, when he's only like i90 and the DDs both 110.

Yeah i never understood why they don't show TP, but maybe there never has been an ability or potion to really affect it before now. Why not have HP MP and TP different colors and have them stacked with each other...or at the very least have MP/TP stacked vertically.

Also...why the heck can't you goad yourself? Well...outside the obvious reasons that you will seem crazy trying to annoy and provoke yourself during combat=P.

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Originally Posted by Asakura93

Is the Tank keeping 7+ mobs on him? Obviously he's used more than just one or two Overpower, so you can Goad.

Not hard, really.

Or even Goad after killing the mobs so the next pull happens faster. It's all for your sake lol.. (and for the sake of a fast(er) run)

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This is fine honestly and manageable when a tank is actually doing this. My main point is the job is a week old and many of us are figuring stuff out and actively staring at our hotbars. Mudra casting has to be watched due to latency/server side checks.

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Not everyone views these forums, if a NIN isn't giving you Goad then instruct them to or you can even tell them at the beginning of a run to make things go smoother.

Hah and people complaining about bards not using songs.

I dont get it. Goad doesnt reduce dmg like songs do so y not just spam it if theres a warrior

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Originally Posted by ReplicaX

So we have to watch them on top of our Ninjutsu priorities and keeping all buffs and DoTs up.

No, they can simply ask for it. Ninja is not only a new job ppl are still figuring out, overall it is extremely busy.

Bard can watch other pt members and also manage songs, because the job isn't as busy and much more simplistic. Goad has a CD and is not based on MP.

Maybe when players get everything figured out, priorities down, and muscle memory perfect we can do this. The job is only a week old.

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"Figuring out" the job doesn't take that long nor does it take that much effort. Figuring out when a WAR might need TP is not an observation unique to Ninja. It's not that much to ask that people have a base understanding of what other jobs do.

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Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez

"Figuring out" the job doesn't take that long nor does it take that much effort. Figuring out when a WAR might need TP is not an observation unique to Ninja. It's not that much to ask that people have a base understanding of what other jobs do.

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From my own experience. It isn't an issue, especially something like Goad. I have yet to see the need so far in my runs as I have been doing ST to gear for higher dungeons and passing Goad over to MNKs/DRGs, if none then Tanks. In other dungeons and bigger pulls, yes priority to tanks.

However, you are not going to come across everyone like this. Which my point being yet again: ask for it if they aren't doing it. Not everyone reads the forums or has this understanding or observation/knowledge of other jobs. DF is a testament to getting the mixed bag of players and especially with 2.4 being Dungeon focused and hunts being less appealing.

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Originally Posted by Deliciou5

Also...why the heck can't you goad yourself? Well...outside the obvious reasons that you will seem crazy trying to annoy and provoke yourself during combat=P.

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My guess is that if you could, most ninja's would only use it on themselves when its intended to be a support skill for your party.

I have not played WAR other than to lvl it a long, long time ago. I have no clue when a WAR needs tp. Why would it be so difficult for a WAR to type goad if they need it.