Crafting is useless?

I heard gil is useless too @@:

(smart) crafters are rich

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Originally Posted by Alkimi

I'd say it's more useful than those 2 games. People always need food and stat potions (well, good players do).

Also, the last tier of crafted gear was generally better than i100 with good melds, despite only being i90. Doesn't really matter so much now since sands and oils rain from the sky but from 2.2 to 2.3 they were really good if you had the money to spend.

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I90 crafted- The window in which they were worth more then vanity was actually quite small due to hunts like you said. I70 held its own for a long time but the gap between I90, coil 2, and cheesemode Sol gear unweathered was quite huge. I suppose someone could argue the accessories are still good but considering the headache of melding them vs. mindlessly doing hunts most people just go for the unweathered counterpart, like instead of STR on VIT rings people just grab the Sol stuff.

For example, in World of Warcraft, all professions can contribute to BiS stats at end-game. Most of the time it's not through actual pieces themselves, but for example Tailoring (ClothCrafting) can form threads that when applied to your leg slot augment them and increase their stats.

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Originally Posted by Coatl

It's useful if you want gil.

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Or if you dont want gil... *ahem materia's*

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Originally Posted by Nofacekiller

For example, in World of Warcraft, all professions can contribute to BiS stats at end-game. Most of the time it's not through actual pieces themselves, but for example Tailoring (ClothCrafting) can form threads that when applied to your leg slot augment them and increase their stats.

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Keep in mind that this is an MMO where everyone can literally do everything. I shudder to think what would happen if each crafting class gave it's own sort of boost to your gear and basically required everyone who wanted to do Coil to level up their crafting classes to the max and then proceed to gear them just so that they can have the best possible chance to complete a turn. It would be a new age where the common PF requirement would be "Full 5-meld gear with all craft boosts"

There's a reason why you can't meld materia into gear you get from dungeons.

It all depends on what you consider valuable.

If you're only interested in BiS PvE progression and gearing, then bothering with anything to do with crafting is almost pointless outside of stat potions and food buffs.

The moment you start wanting to do anything else - anything to do with vanity, maximizing PvP gear, etc - crafting starts becoming important.

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Originally Posted by Alkimi

I'd say it's more useful than those 2 games. People always need food and stat potions (well, good players do).

Also, the last tier of crafted gear was generally better than i100 with good melds, despite only being i90. Doesn't really matter so much now since sands and oils rain from the sky but from 2.2 to 2.3 they were really good if you had the money to spend.

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in FFXI every player was considered gimp for not having food. here food is useless in comparison and most wont care if you dont have food.

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Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon

Keep in mind that this is an MMO where everyone can literally do everything. I shudder to think what would happen if each crafting class gave it's own sort of boost to your gear and basically required everyone who wanted to do Coil to level up their crafting classes to the max and then proceed to gear them just so that they can have the best possible chance to complete a turn. It would be a new age where the common PF requirement would be "Full 5-meld gear with all craft boosts"

There's a reason why you can't meld materia into gear you get from dungeons.

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Well, in WoW, the item enchantments are able to be sold on the auction house (their equivalent of the market board). And so many people craft that the prices are actually quite reasonable.

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Originally Posted by Alkimi

Also, the last tier of crafted gear was generally better than i100 with good melds, despite only being i90. Doesn't really matter so much now since sands and oils rain from the sky but from 2.2 to 2.3 they were really good if you had the money to spend.

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I guess with 2.4 the next highest crafting tier would be ilevel 110

I will havet o ask the same question most some other ppl asked.
What do you mean by useless?
I kinda think fighting gear is useless because they keep putting in new gear all the time so after 3 months we get better gear for free
But I don't find the vanity items we can craft useless cause they will stay the same for eeeveeeer

Then there is food and potions they are always nice

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Originally Posted by Zoeila

in FFXI every player was considered gimp for not having food. here food is useless in comparison and most wont care if you dont have food.

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I think that is cause SE makes the dungeons/ST/CT too easy
But when I have done ex trials most people do use food buffs. Now its not neccessary though cause of echo.