voice chat

If a group requires VC and you don't like that, just join another group.

TBH, SE done a good job on making fights clear enough to be done without VC needs. You just need to look and hear (and have ping 0 of course trollolol) :)

Here we go again with the 'your play style isn't the same as mine therefore you suck.'

You're entitled to an opinion, if you don't like using voip that's fine, but why feel the need to insult everyone who does use it? Personally I enjoy voip, but I'm a bit of a chatterbox, and playing properly I have very little time to type so, voip ftw.

What I'm getting from this is 'I don't expect to play as a team, I expect the 7 other players to execute their roles perfectly so we can win with minimal interaction'

I understand it, but what gets me is the groups that say "know what you're doing" or "2 strikes and boot" then demand a voice program. These are the groups that always, without exception end up wiping at least 10 times.

Every.

Single.

Time.

It's not even so much about needing, it's also just about the social element.

If people are on voice chat, talk and socialize then I am much more willing to help them better their game if they're unfamiliar on what to do. Whether that be due to a lack of knowledge regarding the fight, aren't comfortable with their class, whatever. They've showed that they're an actual human being playing, and as such they can be treated.

People who refuse to join voice chat and end up sucking? They can get an instant kick out of the group. If they fail to acknowledge the social element in a multiplayer game, I will fail to acknowledge them as a person and treat them as an NPC.

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Originally Posted by Squa11_Leonhart

i lolled

love you odin guys.

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Thanks, we love ourselves too.

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Originally Posted by Fornix

It's not even so much about needing, it's also just about the social element.

If people are on voice chat, talk and socialize then I am much more willing to help them better their game if they're unfamiliar on what to do. Whether that be due to a lack of knowledge regarding the fight, aren't comfortable with their class, whatever. They've showed that they're an actual human being playing, and as such they can be treated.

People who refuse to join voice chat and end up sucking? They can get an instant kick out of the group. If they fail to acknowledge the social element in a multiplayer game, I will fail to acknowledge them as a person and treat them as an NPC.

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Every person who plays this game is a real person. If you treat them as less than that, for whatever reason, it speaks a lot more about your failings than it does about theirs.

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Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan

if voice chat is a must have in a fight, you arent really a pro after all.
JS

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Ummmmm.. oke?

thank you for this salty comment, my eggs were really underseasoned.
AHEM, not once did i insult people who used it..i simply said that if it is a MUST (as in use it or dont join this PF yo!) then you are simply not a pro. i am fine with VC, i am fine with people using VC and if i so desire will use VC myself.
that does not deter from the fact that people who think VC are a must to win a fight are usually unable to properly engage in the fight without such instructions with voice and thus, are not pro.

now my eggs are plenty salty so pls do not bring upon me anymore of such comments, i simply shant have it!

"EDIT- meant to reply to YAHAVAGE with this."

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

Every person who plays this game is a real person. If you treat them as less than that, for whatever reason, it speaks a lot more about your failings than it does about theirs.

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Maybe so. However I prefer to play together with those who don't object to engaging in social interaction. Rather than just joining a group with no other intent than using those players as the means to reach their end.

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

I understand it, but what gets me is the groups that say "know what you're doing" or "2 strikes and boot" then demand a voice program. These are the groups that always, without exception end up wiping at least 10 times.

Every.

Single.

Time.

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funny you say this because i recently idid t7 with a group that was 7/8 in TS. safe to say we didnt even come close to winning...and not because of me.