1 Dislike about 1.18 that is just disgusting.. 75MP???

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Originally Posted by GreatLeviathan

The Mp costs from Cure are freaking 75MP!!!!!!!!!!
Now every single MMORPG has at least potions to heal yourself.
FF doesnt which i respected as you just had to lvl conjurer too and you could heal yourself.
But now you guys took out the only thing people have to heal themselves.

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First, welcome to the boards. We've been discussing this since the patch notes were posted. I bet there are 10 threads with over 100 posts on this very topic.

Second, there are healing potions.

Third, there are other ways to heal yourself -- Second Wind, Bloodbath, Aegis Boon, Speed Surge, etc. And healing potions. And food.

Fourth, if you're running out of MP, you should try conserving it. Or boosting it. Increase your Mind. Or use food. Or use ethers. Or use Stygian Spikes. Or maybe use Cure 1?

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Now we can heal ourselves 3 times and then its FU player.

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Yes. No more unlimited supply of MP. It's more challenging now. Lots of people think that's a good thing.

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How are we supposed to solo play? Take down lower lvl mobs so it takes us 15 years to get to lvl 20?

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You're supposed to play smarter. A higher degree of challenge rewards skillful play. You should try to get better so you don't have to keep fighting lower level mobs.

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And the thunder II spells stay at 20 mp like it was.

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I don't understand this. Are you suggesting that Thunder II should have been increased, too? I thought you were against increased MP costs.

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You wanted us to combine our classes and now you punish us if we are not a conjurer class?

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This doesn't make any sense. They're not punishing you for combining classes. They're rewarding you because you can use abilities from other classes. You can cure yourself as an Arc. That's a reward. You just can't spam Cures forever.

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Originally Posted by Rydin

The new post-1.18 crying session:
Healing sucks... I can't solo MOBs way higher than me.... It's too challenging... It's too hard... I level way too slow

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its not really crying when SE themselves admitted that they HAVE gone overboard.
Thats just another forum poster wanting to point fingers and laugh at pple just cause they found something they can poke at.

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Originally Posted by Rydin

The definitive pre-1.18 sob story:
Healing is too easy... you can solo MOBs way higher than you... there is no challenge... it's all easy mode... Healing is just OP. Leveling is way too fast. Sac III is OP

The new post-1.18 crying session:
Healing sucks... I can't solo MOBs way higher than me.... It's too challenging... It's too hard... I level way too slow

The sad truth:
SE can't win...

With MP regen people complained that MP was too easy to come by... still think that now?

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So true. So very, very true.

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Originally Posted by Deceptistar

its not really crying when SE themselves admitted that they HAVE gone overboard.
Thats just another forum poster wanting to point fingers and laugh at pple just cause they found something they can poke at.

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No... SE admitted that people were complaining
See, healing is a fundamental aspect of the battle system.
Therefore, making healing easier makes battle easier.
Making healing more difficult makes battle more challenging
Not everyone wants the game easy. In fact, most people complained that the game was TOO EASY.

Let's consider the extreme:
Healing is free and builds zero enmity.
Deepvoid Slave becomes "babies" even more so than it is now
Batraal becomes beatable by any rag tag bunch of adventurers

Healing is not even remotely broken. You're only basis for comparison is the previous system (and possibly past MMO's or RPG's) which has no bearing on the current system, or at least very little

A more challenging battle could possibly be exactly what the developers envisioned with this change. The dungeons definitely require more skillful play, foster strategic partying and reward more skilled players. I thought that is what SE wanted, in which case the new healing does exactly what was intended

The one big difference between Yoshi-P and Tanaka was that Tanaka would run with the new systema nd give people time to get used to it instead of switching it up and back pedaling after less than a week

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Originally Posted by VydarrTyr

First, welcome to the boards. We've been discussing this since the patch notes were posted. I bet there are 10 threads with over 100 posts on this very topic.

Second, there are healing potions.

Third, there are other ways to heal yourself -- Second Wind, Bloodbath, Aegis Boon, Speed Surge, etc. And healing potions. And food.

Fourth, if you're running out of MP, you should try conserving it. Or boosting it. Increase your Mind. Or use food. Or use ethers. Or use Stygian Spikes. Or maybe use Cure 1?

Yes. No more unlimited supply of MP. It's more challenging now. Lots of people think that's a good thing.

You're supposed to play smarter. A higher degree of challenge rewards skillful play. You should try to get better so you don't have to keep fighting lower level mobs.

I don't understand this. Are you suggesting that Thunder II should have been increased, too? I thought you were against increased MP costs.

This doesn't make any sense. They're not punishing you for combining classes. They're rewarding you because you can use abilities from other classes. You can cure yourself as an Arc. That's a reward. You just can't spam Cures forever.

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Did you even read my post?

Now its impossible to fight a 10+ lvl monster and the ones that are just a few lvl's higher then yourself are no match.
Mp should have gone up maybe.. But not to this extreme part. 75mp is way overload.
And some don't have the time to spend 24 hours a day on a game.
Healing potions??? WHat they heal 50 hp like the ethers? I havent seen any healing potions yet.

And for rydin. If your not serious on a reply and just want to act like a 4 year old then go play some barbie games and leave a discussion for the mature people.
I don't care if it's hard i like that but if you can't heal yourself when almost dead then there is no use in fighting stronger monsters.
I'm not the only 1 that thinks so and those who say it's a good idea are the ones playing 24/7 or always have like a r***d groupd of 8 attacking 1 little goat.... No one needs healing that way when 8 lvl 20 people attack a lvl 23 goat.

So yeah healing at 45 would be ok but 75 is bs.
I played every single FF there is and it never was that stupid.
And on other MMO's you do have healing pots that heal descent.

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Originally Posted by Rydin

No... SE admitted that people were complaining
See, healing is a fundamental aspect of the battle system.
Therefore, making healing easier makes battle easier.
Making healing more difficult makes battle more challenging
Not everyone wants the game easy. In fact, most people complained that the game was TOO EASY.

Let's consider the extreme:
Healing is free and builds zero enmity.
Deepvoid Slave becomes "babies" even more so than it is now
Batraal becomes beatable by any rag tag bunch of adventurers

Healing is not even remotely broken. You're only basis for comparison is the previous system (and possibly past MMO's or RPG's) which has no bearing on the current system, or at least very little

A more challenging battle could possibly be exactly what the developers envisioned with this change. The dungeons definitely require more skillful play, foster strategic partying and reward more skilled players. I thought that is what SE wanted, in which case the new healing does exactly what was intended

The one big difference between Yoshi-P and Tanaka was that Tanaka would run with the new systema nd give people time to get used to it instead of switching it up and back pedaling after less than a week

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You seem to be a n**by.
There is more challenging and there is impossible.
Fighting your own lvl mobs is easy and boring and only give exp worth of a lvl 1 mob.
Thats why people take on a chalange by attacking stronger mobs testing if they could handle them.
Without healing it stays at fighting your own lvl which is easy and boring again. No chalange.
Think before you type bs. Youre making a fool out of yourself.

u dont need to fight a 10+ lvl mob to take the sp cap .
Stop crying ...

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Originally Posted by Killerbomb

u dont need to fight a 10+ lvl mob to take the sp cap .
Stop crying ...

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Another n**b
Stop posting?

Wait, are you self-censoring the word "noob"?

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Originally Posted by Viridiana

Wait, are you self-censoring the word "noob"?

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Yeah some people respect others some don't.
Put up a post to point out an mistake and some douchebags that don't seem to have a life post bs on it.
Free world people can post whatever they like if they dislike something about a game.
SE even encourages it.