Win trade groups

As bad as it might be to some that people are getting essentially "free PVP rank ups" and points, you really have to considder the impact it has on most people who play this game.

Which is none.

I dont PVP, i dont like PVP and i dont feel i should be forced to PVP for my gear. Going by queue times and people actively doing PVP, i'm far from the only one who thinks of it like this.

Why would i care if someone looks prettier than someone else in his PVP armor? It's not going to serve any use in PVE anyhow. And this Win-trading would still be the better alternative to having people who -do- like PVP quitting this game over not being able to win because elite group #23 has better PVP gear and isnt letting anyone they face off against get close to obtaining that themselves.

I find PVP in this game lame. There's no strategies one can employ over focusing on one person to take down first. It all comes down to who has the better gear, the better stats and the most morale on that gear.

I'm not going to be bothered by people win-trading. Am i going to be jealous i didnt get to Rank 30 in PVP? I guess i dont mind getting some of that gear for glamours. But it's not going to bother me that people are getting it. Honestly, if i really wanted to get some of that gear i'd probably employ a similar method of getting it anyhow. I cant really disapprove of something i feel i would probably do myself.

Ever since Frotlines showed up you see less and less of these groups.

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Originally Posted by R1dder

Getting max rank in pvp and all gear with no effort.

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No effort? I would hardly say that. Even win trading, they will have to spend a lot of time in order to max their PvP Rank. I would classify effort as putting the time in to achieve something. In the case of win trading, they are still putting in effort... Quite a lot of it. I would go so far as to say they might even be putting more effort in, since it will be a much more boring way of levelling their rank. Whatever your opinion on win trading, they are still making effort but the nature of the effort is just very different to spamming Frontlines or traditional Wolve's Den matches.

Don't misunderstand me; I see your point entirely and I can understand why you or anyone else would not like this approach. It's just a little melodramatic to say they're not putting any effort in when they are actually putting in quite a bit of it.

Ultimately how they get their rank doesn't change your gameplay in anyway. This post is perfect:

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Originally Posted by Sakasa

More then say people power leveling peoples crafts? Or Balmung's Cul-in-a-box service where you literally pay a one time fee and they supply you with every leve turn in to get you from 1 - 50 plus gear and quest items? Or how about AV first room clear only, or old Brayflox two boss speed? For your own sanity it is easier to let some things go or your going to be overall angry all the time.

Post the dev complaint, and move on it might be a technical exploit but the are using the system as it was presented to them let the devs/mods sort it out.

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Could not have put it better myself. There's too many people playing this game and too many potential loop holes to get riled over every one of them. Live and let live, they're not affecting you in anyway.

There are also a bunch of players who do this trading, only as much as to fill out the challenge log for the Wolves Den, (which otherwise would be lost due to absurd queue times) and seeing as the exp is a % of a rank.
That's 10 matches, 5 wins, the other 5 are lost.

That's hardly impacting anyone.

With how terrible frontlines ques are right now i'm surprised more of these haven't popped up trying to get more people into frontlines :/