t7 help

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Originally Posted by KarstenS

Stacking tactic I've also seen and in my opinion, it is risky. To be mostly safe that renauds don't wake up, you need the stone refresh on them that they also get through shriek. When you stack 4 renauds, there is a risk that one of them is in the shadow of the others and shriek will not refresh stone on him. So these might wake up to early.

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That's true. This is why I ask the healers and people with shriek to watch and ensure that all 4x renauds were hit after I believe I've placed them correctly (usually around 60% phase shift, or beforehand). The reason I tell them to do it is because if you are far away from the renauds, you likely won't see all four floating text on the mobs as they are hit, and the only way to 'know' is to tab through them. With more practice and patience, the kiter will get REALLY good at timing and won't have to 'replace' renauds as frequently. The only time renauds will need to be replaced is if they spawn across the room and the voice comes too early for the renaud to even reach the spot it needs to be in.

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Originally Posted by Ryuko

That's true. This is why I ask the healers and people with shriek to watch and ensure that all 4x renauds were hit after I believe I've placed them correctly (usually around 60% phase shift, or beforehand). The reason I tell them to do it is because if you are far away from the renauds, you likely won't see all four floating text on the mobs as they are hit, and the only way to 'know' is to tab through them. With more practice and patience, the kiter will get REALLY good at timing and won't have to 'replace' renauds as frequently. The only time renauds will need to be replaced is if they spawn across the room and the voice comes too early for the renaud to even reach the spot it needs to be in.

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Then your kiter kites one more round till next voice comes :)

ok so basically is about timing the phase shifts so that the voices aren't going to b off from the Renaud spawns so as someone said wait for a voice or shriek b4 pushing phases and it should even out the voice to Renaud situation that we seem to be having will bring that up once and c how it goes ;)

Phase changes due to DPS changes can be very frustrating. Due to hunts all our DPS are now i110 and we wiped for hours in t7 this week due to killing the last add too fast. (We normally take 3 tries max). At 80 and 60 push the phase right after a voice. At 37 wait for shriek to finish (player shriek goes off) then push to 35 and finally don't kill the last add until voice starts casting.

Good tips in the thread already, but I'll summarise here and include an extra tip:

- Place the renaulds on the middle ring, furthest point from the boss.

- Place the renaulds in the same 'hit box' so shieks/voices will affect them all

- To ensure your re-pet timers are guaranteed to renew on a phase change, hold DPS at 82%, 62% and 37% (changes are 2% below these) and wait for a shriek before phase changing. (voice for the 82%)

- Perhaps the most experienced tip I can give, and the only one I've not seen mentioned in the thread is to 'angle' the front side of each of your renaulds so they are facing the boss before they get petrified. (This may require you to kite them around a bit before bringing them to the stack position, depending on how long you have until the petrify goes off. ) The reason for this is because the rotation of the boss in her last phase has longer delays between the voice/shrieks where your renaulds can have a chance to wake up. The way to prevent that is to refresh their petrify with the bosses newest ability "patrifcation", which requires them to face her.

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Originally Posted by NovaUltimatum

- Perhaps the most experienced tip I can give, and the only one I've not seen mentioned in the thread is to 'angle' the front side of each of your renaulds so they are facing the boss before they get petrified. (This may require you to kite them around a bit before bringing them to the stack position, depending on how long you have until the petrify goes off. ) The reason for this is because the rotation of the boss in her last phase has longer delays between the voice/shrieks where your renaulds can have a chance to wake up. The way to prevent that is to refresh their petrify with the bosses newest ability "patrifcation", which requires them to face her.

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If u shift correctly, this is not needed. Also it is very error prone

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Originally Posted by NovaUltimatum

- Perhaps the most experienced tip I can give, and the only one I've not seen mentioned in the thread is to 'angle' the front side of each of your renaulds so they are facing the boss before they get petrified. (This may require you to kite them around a bit before bringing them to the stack position, depending on how long you have until the petrify goes off. ) The reason for this is because the rotation of the boss in her last phase has longer delays between the voice/shrieks where your renaulds can have a chance to wake up. The way to prevent that is to refresh their petrify with the bosses newest ability "patrifcation", which requires them to face her.

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My group does this because for some reason the Renauds tend to "wake up" about a half second before a healers voice goes off in the final phase. Using petrifaction to refresh petrify has given us a good safety net for clearing this turn.

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Originally Posted by Yonko

pause DPS at 82 and 62% for a voice. Pause DPS at 37% for a shriek. Wait till kill the 3rd add for another shriek. Solves all the timing problems in that fight.

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This. Exactly. After the first week since hunts, we had a lot of players finish their novus and upgrade some weathered gear. Our DPS spiked big time. Suddenly, T7 became all messed up due to shriek/voice/add spawns. Halt DPS at those times. Adjust.

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Originally Posted by NovaUltimatum

The way to prevent that is to refresh their petrify with the bosses newest ability "patrifcation", which requires them to face her.

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I thought I am already dreaming or so. Also noticed this. But got not the idea to actively make use of this.