Would you Frontline?

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Originally Posted by Shinun

Since pvp queues aren't the greatest in the game, and pvp in general wasn't big in the last FF. Knowing what the current rewards are. Would you participate in the pvp actively if the myth part of the reward for each 30 min 24v24v24 was comparable to 30 minutes of bray speed running?

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So you'd get 300 myth for 30 minutes of PVP?

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Originally Posted by Noahlimits

So you'd get 300 myth for 30 minutes of PVP?

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That is what I meant when saying comparable to anywhere from 200-300 myth per game along with the other rewards. If then it would be enough to entice PvE players to actively participate. Since 24v24v24=72 Players.

I am going to ride into battle on the pony of destruction while summoning my fairy of war! Dragoons..beware.

I highly doubt very many matches are going to even last 10 minutes. Larger scale PvP usually goes pretty
quickly. Especially at the rate Yoshi was getting points in the video. The only way a full 30 mins is gonna
go is if people AFK and/or just decide for some reason to not even bother trying to take bases and just beating
eachother senseless.

With that said, I think the rewards will be worth it, and yes I will be PvPing for sure.

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Originally Posted by Shinun

That is what I meant when saying comparable to anywhere from 200-300 myth per game along with the other rewards. If then it would be enough to entice PvE players to actively participate. Since 24v24v24=72 Players.

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I'd prefer it didn't entice that crowd, to be honest. Those are the people that will play the game and find any means to quickly end it, win or lose (assuming loss has some degree of reward to it). If there's an efficient means to a decent end, they'll go straight for it without any regard to content. They are the ones that will rage and point fingers at people illogically. I guarantee it'd entice a player I encountered earlier doing Ifrit HM that, after wiping because DPS didn't take out the nails (no LB used for that matter), blamed the healers under pretense that they couldn't cure fast enough to survive the 1-shot LOL. After being told that the nail this player was attacking didn't go down in time, immediately shifted blame to a low geared MNK... /sigh

So yeah, I'd prefer mouth breathers didn't participate much in competitive aspects of this game. Enticing them with something that is equal to a speed run (which tends to also attract a certain short fused mentally challenged crowd), is not something I'd like to really bring in. PvP because you want to win or to have fun actively participating in (along with any other reasons). Don't do it primarily because you think it's a quick means to rewards (e.g. win-trading players). I promise you they'd AFK their way to tomes/marks/exp if it's an option.

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Originally Posted by Swishytail

I highly doubt very many matches are going to even last 10 minutes. Larger scale PvP usually goes pretty
quickly. Especially at the rate Yoshi was getting points in the video. The only way a full 30 mins is gonna
go is if people AFK and/or just decide for some reason to not even bother trying to take bases and just beating
eachother senseless.

With that said, I think the rewards will be worth it, and yes I will be PvPing for sure.

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To me it doesn't seem like thats how it works. According to the info given today it seemed like 30 minutes is the match. That you just rake up points throughout the whole 30 minutes from killing mobs,players,capturing and keeping points. Then I'd assume after the 30 minutes. GC with highest point total wins

If there's LB3 and pvp skills then all i have to say is save attunement for meteor lol...?
But imo i rather have a frontlines with little to no objectives cuz honestly ppl are too stupid to co-ordinate plans in a non pre made and non voice chat group.
Ppl will just keep tunnel visioning whoever looks squishy to them. I swear, cuz the influx of new players will make it so derp but hopefully still fun.

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Originally Posted by Shinun

To me it doesn't seem like thats how it works. According to the info given today it seemed like 30 minutes is the match. That you just rake up points throughout the whole 30 minutes from killing mobs,players,capturing and keeping points. Then I'd assume after the 30 minutes. GC with highest point total wins

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Negative. If you look in the video, each GC on the right side of the screen has 0/1000 listed underneath their respective flags.
It's first to 1,000. They only set that 30-minutes so people can't just go in and AFK forever and use up server space. :)

As Yoshi stood by those flags/bases, it started to increase. 10/1000 > 20/1000 > etc.

If I'm mistaken, that's pretty ridiculous to force people to have 30-minute matches or get nothing. I'm 99% sure it's first to 1000.

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Originally Posted by Shinun

To me it doesn't seem like thats how it works. According to the info given today it seemed like 30 minutes is the match. That you just rake up points throughout the whole 30 minutes from killing mobs,players,capturing and keeping points. Then I'd assume after the 30 minutes. GC with highest point total wins

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In the live letter there was a limit in the points every team could get, xxxx/1000, but we don't know if 1k is some kind of min or the quantity that marks the end of the match.

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Originally Posted by Yumi_umi

If there's LB3 and pvp skills then all i have to say is save attunement for meteor lol...?
But imo i rather have a frontlines with little to no objectives cuz honestly ppl are too stupid to co-ordinate plans in a non pre made and non voice chat group.
Ppl will just keep tunnel visioning whoever looks squishy to them. I swear, cuz the influx of new players will make it so derp but hopefully still fun.

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Objectives are also there to sort of give a sort of leverage to players that may not be part of a team that is coordinated or may be lower in gear. It's an immediate win for better geared players if it were simply a deathmatch that ignores organization, regardless of how skilled/coordinated the undergeared players may be. At least with objectives, those under geared players would have a shot if the opposing teams ignored the goals of the map. Of course, if the better geared teams did pay attention to the objectives, then the undergeared players would likely still lose, but that'd essentially be the same outcome from the deathmatch. The difference is, again, that they at least have a shot at victory.