Question about Second Coil of 2 turn. (T7)

Since my group will only start practicing tonight it's a good alternative strategy to try out for us.

Is there a video of this method?

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Originally Posted by Umisame

Is there a video of this method?

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Can't you imagine how it is done? Just kite renauds always on the same spot, bind and freeze them. Job done. For all who have it already on farm, they can stick to their strategy. But this one is really really simple. One factor less to care during the fight.

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Originally Posted by bokchoykn

It sounds like it may be easier, depending on what barriers are preventing your group from progressing. For us, the hassle is more about relearning an aspect of the fight we already have on farm status. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" kinda thing.

The issue I can see is that each Renaud needs to be frozen close to the previously frozen Renaud(s). With Miasma and Shadowbind, getting the exact positioning that you want shouldn't be a big deal, but the timing of the Voices plus the initial positioning of the Renauds doesn't always cooperate with you. If for whatever reason, you fail to refreeze the old ogres AND the new ogres, it's a wipe.

We haven't actually tried it yet, but just saying that this ain't no Turn 2 Enrage.

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We've tried it and there was an issue with the first one breaking even though we were able to refresh. Seems like something with the duration of the voice buff being different for each of the 3 people who get it messing things up. It would break like 2 seconds before we did it. You likely have to make sure someone(at least them) with the same length voice does it every time, which could be problematic.

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Originally Posted by ispano

We've tried it and there was an issue with the first one breaking even though we were able to refresh. Seems like something with the duration of the voice buff being different for each of the 3 people who get it messing things up. It would break like 2 seconds before we did it. You likely have to make sure someone(at least them) with the same length voice does it every time, which could be problematic.

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Your first one was just out of line of sight of the voice. Voice will last long enough for another voice, regardless of duration, to refresh it. The problem with stacking renauds is that they line of sight each other. You would need to stack them correctly every attempt to successfully pull off this strat.

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Originally Posted by Arrak

Your first one was just out of line of sight of the voice. Voice will last long enough for another voice, regardless of duration, to refresh it. The problem with stacking renauds is that they line of sight each other. You would need to stack them correctly every attempt to successfully pull off this strat.

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No, after the first time it happened I checked each one, they both got refreshed.

We tried it today. It works if they stack very tight, if they hide each other not all will be refreshed and you're fucked. Nevertheless, it happens that voice and shriek line up so badly, that renaulds get free 2 seconds before voice fires when all get 8s voice, we had that case.

Yeah, it seems that while it solves one problem, it causes another.

Where's a good position to stack the Renauds? Because I've seen Renauds spawning on tank side, and before it can crawl all the way to the other side of the arena Melusine readies Cursed Voice.

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Originally Posted by ispano

No, after the first time it happened I checked each one, they both got refreshed.

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I agree, as long as the Renauds are in each other's hitboxes the petrification will be effective (this will also happen, if someone in the party stands in a Renaud's hitbox during shriek)