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    Alise Reinhart
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    Question about Second Coil of 2 turn. (T7)

    Lately, I have been hearing a lot of party talking about "4 giant stone method".

    Could anybody explain me how does this method work? Seeing that only 3 person has curse voice, and the Giant could become fast after all stone debuff expired. I don't know how can party always keep 4 Giant alive at the same time.

    I want to know how does this work, so I can apply this with my static if it is good.
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Simple. Kite fatty #1 to designated spot, freeze it. Then Kite #2 to same spot, healer use the voice to freeze both. Rinse and repeat.
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    Shinhye Heartstrings
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    This is interesting, can someone please describe more detail on this method ?
    Thanks.
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    My static just got to T7 and will start practicing it tonight, so a more detail description on how this works would be great
    thanks
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    There isnt much to explain really. Stone voice refreshes the freeze duration on a previously frozen giant. If youre able to freeze a new giant and an old giant at the same time (they need to be fairly close to each other), and then repeat until you have four giants, you prevent new giants from spawning.

    No more kiting. No more accidental giant kills. Person with shriek just hides behind the pile of giants.

    Different groups might feel differently about this but my group feels it isnt worth the hassle.
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    the hassle of kiting the renaud over and over and over?

    or kiting renaud 4 times only? :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by bokchoykn View Post
    There isnt much to explain really. Stone voice refreshes the freeze duration on a previously frozen giant. If youre able to freeze a new giant and an old giant at the same time (they need to be fairly close to each other), and then repeat until you have four giants, you prevent new giants from spawning.

    No more kiting. No more accidental giant kills. Person with shriek just hides behind the pile of giants.

    Different groups might feel differently about this but my group feels it isnt worth the hassle.
    Lol thx for tip. And so it begins that the fight goes into easy mode Uhhh, I smell a victory today or on monday this reset period with my static.
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    please update if its actually easier. sounds like positioning the renaud will be tricky. i have to try it myself.

    the way i see it. priority is to restun the stacked renauds regardless. this is incase the new one spawned far and cant reach the stacking point.
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    The renauds line of sight each other so they have to be stacked in a way that voice will hit all four of them. Getting them into position is more of a hassle to groups that are used to doing the fight normally. Only four renaud will spawn at a time, so if you can manage to stack four renaud so that they're always being hit by voice, no more will spawn and your bard will be free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empty-handed View Post
    the hassle of kiting the renaud over and over and over?

    or kiting renaud 4 times only? :/
    It sounds like it may be easier, depending on what barriers are preventing your group from progressing. For us, the hassle is more about relearning an aspect of the fight we already have on farm status. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" kinda thing.

    The issue I can see is that each Renaud needs to be frozen close to the previously frozen Renaud(s). With Miasma and Shadowbind, getting the exact positioning that you want shouldn't be a big deal, but the timing of the Voices plus the initial positioning of the Renauds doesn't always cooperate with you. If for whatever reason, you fail to refreeze the old ogres AND the new ogres, it's a wipe.

    We haven't actually tried it yet, but just saying that this ain't no Turn 2 Enrage.
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