Anyone knows the peak point of having Crit for SCH?

It doesn't make a tangible difference in most battles, but it does add up. It's more often crit from succor is where its at. You are almost always get a crit casting succor on the team somewhere.

It probably has to do with sch's crappy heal potency. Going higher in 2 mdmg(the highest teir stat mages can have) gave my sch all of.... 40hp in aqu power and maybe 15hp in succor... basically crap....might as well go crit in such a bad multiplier.

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Originally Posted by kukurumei

It doesn't make a tangible difference in most battles, but it does add up. It's more often crit from succor is where its at. You are almost always get a crit casting succor on the team somewhere.

It probably has to do with sch's crappy heal potency. Going higher in 2 mdmg(the highest teir stat mages can have) gave my sch all of.... 40hp in aqu power and maybe 15hp in succor... basically crap....might as well go crit in such a bad multiplier.

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>_> you realize WHM is the same right? Its about 20 points a weapon damage. And its not like many sch books have crit anyways.

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Originally Posted by Airikay

>_> you realize WHM is the same right? Its about 20 points a weapon damage. And its not like many sch books have crit anyways.

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WHM have Divine Seal, and cure II, as well as medica1/2 and cure III.

Sch's have so little potency multiplier, except eos, there just isn't much equipment can do in terms of raw output.

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Originally Posted by kukurumei

WHM have Divine Seal, and cure II, as well as medica1/2 and cure III.

Sch's have so little potency multiplier, except eos, there just isn't much equipment can do in terms of raw output.

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You really do have to take Eos/Selene into account. They make up for SCH's lower potency.
Plus SCH wasn't built to be a burst healer like WHM is. If they were, they'd be a WHM with a fairy, then nobody would take WHM to content. I think the devs did a great job balancing the 2 jobs without public testing. It's all about mitigating damage (boosting eHP in other words)

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Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64

You really do have to take Eos/Selene into account. They make up for SCH's lower potency.
Plus SCH wasn't built to be a burst healer like WHM is. If they were, they'd be a WHM with a fairy, then nobody would take WHM to content. I think the devs did a great job balancing the 2 jobs without public testing. It's all about mitigating damage (boosting eHP in other words)

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Eos matters even less since whatever increase the sch has eos has a fraction of that stat. So if a minor bump in sch, is a trival bump in eos.

It's just that in terms of stat choosing, very little can affect a sch like crit where a whm having more mnd and det directl translates into some more substance, because their have bigger multipliers.

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Originally Posted by OrganizationXIll

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That's cute.
Maximum Crit % but not BiS

Be aware of materia.

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Originally Posted by UlricCraft

That's cute.
Maximum Crit % but not BiS

Be aware of materia.

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The melds you've done there likely won't work - HQ crafted gear has (up to the new patch, at least) already been at stat cap for secondaries.

e.g. you can probably put Det and SS onto the Gold Specs, along with a little bit more PIE, as it's a Primary stat, but no more Crit Rate.

on xivdb, whitemage posted

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Originally Posted by whitemage

HQ caps so far that I've been trying;
15 DET
5 PIE
0 CRIT
18 SS (Edit)

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Aw well bummer. You are completely correct. I'll reassess!

Revised!

Heh heh.. For the sake of it... I managed to get 24.7%

Awful primary stats though! Nowhere near BiS. :)

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Originally Posted by kukurumei

Eos matters even less since whatever increase the sch has eos has a fraction of that stat. So if a minor bump in sch, is a trival bump in eos.

It's just that in terms of stat choosing, very little can affect a sch like crit where a whm having more mnd and det directl translates into some more substance, because their have bigger multipliers.

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Uh...lol. EoS has same base stats except her heal has lower potency. But combined with your psy its about sane potency as cure 2. Also, while WHM has divine seal, SCH has rouse and the fairy aoe and the fairy spell that also increases healing. There really isn't bigger multiplier on WHM. Its same. Main difference starts at lower base stats on SCH.

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Originally Posted by Airikay

Uh...lol. EoS has same base stats except her heal has lower potency. But combined with your psy its about sane potency as cure 2. Also, while WHM has divine seal, SCH has rouse and the fairy aoe and the fairy spell that also increases healing. There really isn't bigger multiplier on WHM. Its same. Main difference starts at lower base stats on SCH.

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That's not really how a sch is played. Even if a sch somehow combines their fairy into one cure dump, which no one wants to bring a sch in for, the fairy action is delayed by upto 5 seconds, not including the rouse that takes an extra action. If are claiming the fairy can heal like a whm, that's laughable.

Next time why don't you tell the sch to precast a "cure2" They're be lucky to get iti the heal in before the phase is even over.

In fact rarely would a sch rouse be very long because rouse + wispers already take up half the rouse time.

there's a reason why sch's are sch's and whms are whms. I'm not going to even attempt to heal a 3k phase, unlike a whm that can do it in their sleep.

any stat on a sch is going to translate into crap of crap multiplier it won't matter at all in a real fight. That's why sch's love crit.