My two cents on the ATMA Issue

I've been grinding on and off since the 27th @ 16:00 GMT and have so far got 4 Atma's (Actually got 5 but 2 are from the same area, doh.)

The main thing that annoys me is that you're going to get some lucky sh**s who get all their Atma's in a few days where-as me and tons of others are going to keep getting screwed by the RNG drop rates and even worse it doesn't take any skill or effort what-so-ever.

It wouldn't even bother me if the method for obtaining them was all on a progression system but it's not... just pure bloody luck, and I hate it.

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Originally Posted by Dotsusama

I think the quest design just needs one change: remove the level 50 and the Zenith requirement from the FATEs. If I could do these on low level alts that actually benefit in some fashion from actually being involved in that content, I would be more satisfied than having to do it as a level 50 way overpowered. I can't spirit-bond gear this way, and while I see some use of GC seals resulting from this endeavor, it's such a low output that it is barely worth a mention.

But if the XP was useful (or there were Merit Points that use this XP) then it could stay with the low drop rate.

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No. The issue is the fact that you can't get it when you DO need it. This FATE-based system is arbitrary and is not even in the slightest "fun". When you have managed to completely drain the "fun" part of a "game", regardless of whether it's "video" or not, you are truly a Daedra to be feared.

Even Daedras enjoy a little game or two every now and then

Seen some very good pointers in this thread so far and it seems i'm not the only one who just hates how we are just forced into doing fates. I for one will not waste anymore time with atmas untill they look into this mather, Like i said before, if it was some hard ass content(dungeon/mission what ever) i wouldn't care. i'll get better or get better gear, But i really hate that its based on luck, and you really need alot of luck if you want all 12 off these since i already wasted half a day (12 hours) on 0 atmas... And i can tell you in those 12 hours i've seen alot of people get really frustrated, and not the kind of frustration some people get when failing a simple dungeon.

perfect the way it is. you dont want to grind fates for your wep? go do ex primals for the other weps. dont want those? go do coil for weps. Cant do them? well then your just out of luck. Honestly i dont see how you can complain when so many other options are given to you. Its fine the way it is. personally i wanted more to do in the game and this will help me spend some more time with friends just messing around. Thanks SE!

ps. this is not a troll thread i am 100% serious.

i think people will be frustrated if they spend time on that quest, trying to get the weapon asap.
i think it is meant to be a side-quest that you can do as you already upgrade your equipment.
Just do fates when you have time, in queue, when waiting for full party... and it should be quite smooth i think

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Originally Posted by Axlle10

perfect the way it is. you dont want to grind fates for your wep? go do ex primals for the other weps. dont want those? go do coil for weps. Cant do them? well then your just out of luck. Honestly i dont see how you can complain when so many other options are given to you. Its fine the way it is. personally i wanted more to do in the game and this will help me spend some more time with friends just messing around. Thanks SE!

ps. this is not a troll thread i am 100% serious.

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You very well may be serious. I felt similarly before I sat around doing FATEs for hours to get 0 atmas.

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Originally Posted by Hysterior

i think people will be frustrated if they spend time on that quest, trying to get the weapon asap.
i think it is meant to be a side-quest that you can do as you already upgrade your equipment.
Just do fates when you have time, in queue, when waiting for full party... and it should be quite smooth i think

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The problem with that is if you just do FATEs casually, as you happen upon them or while in queue, you're unlikely to get a single atma within the first week or two. You'd be casually grinding away at this quest for months (and it's the introductory portion of the quest that doesn't actually upgrade the weapon except for visually).

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Originally Posted by Nutz

The problem with that is if you just do FATEs casually, as you happen upon them or while in queue, you're unlikely to get a single atma within the first week or two. You'd be casually grinding away at this quest for months (and it's the introductory portion of the quest that doesn't actually upgrade the weapon except for visually).

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It sure is not ideal, I really don't like Fates either
But i just don't think you will NEED that weapon for any content so just take your time lol

What is the logic of asking players to do something boring and tedious for a very long time? That sounds like the exact opposite of a good game. Or a game, period.

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Originally Posted by nocks

What is the logic of asking players to do something boring and tedious for a very long time? That sounds like the exact opposite of a good game. Or a game, period.

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because some people like a challenge. the relic you can get within 2-3 hours since all the duties are easy a heck. People wanted somethin that not everyone would be able to get within 1-2 weeks of them opening as to sustain the challenge of actually getting it. Like i said there are several different ways to get weapons that are just as good as your relic if not better. Heck, im doing fates for my relic when i wont even be using it when i get my other lvl100-110 weps. I enjoy the challenge of getting it and the satisfaction of succeeding.

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Originally Posted by Axlle10

because some people like a challenge. the relic you can get within 2-3 hours since all the duties are easy a heck. People wanted somethin that not everyone would be able to get within 1-2 weeks of them opening as to sustain the challenge of actually getting it. Like i said there are several different ways to get weapons that are just as good as your relic if not better. Heck, im doing fates for my relic when i wont even be using it when i get my other lvl100-110 weps.

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And once again there is a difference between something that takes skill to do and something that involves only LUCK. like i said, i've seen people get 3 atma's within a few hours yet i wasted 12 without a single drop.

Titan took me a few days becasue it was a pretty hard fight because people didn't know the patterns etc. so that took quite some time, that was fine with me. but something as stupid as this as its based on only luck, nothing else.