TIL Ifrit's Infernal Howl is Line of Sight

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Originally Posted by LygerZero

Wicked Wheel is the AoE, not Slipstream. Slipstream is a Cone attack.

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AoE means "Area of Effect"...any attack that covers an area is an AoE.

Slipstream is a cone AoE. The various attacks on Archeron are all AoEs, not just Moonfall Slash. Titan's Tumults and Weight of the Land are both AoEs as is Mountain Buster, though they all have different areas they effect.

AoEs don't just originate from the attacker, like in Wicked Wheel or Steel Cyclone; they're just one form of AoE. You're showing as a DRG...is Doom Spike not an AoE, even though it has a rectangular damage-zone?

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Originally Posted by LygerZero

Wicked Wheel is the AoE, not Slipstream. Slipstream is a Cone attack.

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AoE = Area of Effect, meaning any ability which targets an area rather than a single target. You can have a straight line or column AoE, PBAoE (point-blank AoE, in a circle around the caster), cone AoE, etc.

On topic, certainly not an exploit, though they may still change it as they did with most other such spells. Might be an oversight.

Interesting to know but I'll still use the healer swap method to keep some "difficulty" intact

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Originally Posted by Noahlimits

Someone on Reddit posted this information, so I thought it'd be useful to everyone doing Ifrit EX. It can easily be solo healed now (or still two healers, just having them aware), with either healer running through Ifrit when he's casting the infernal howl. If you run though him, it'll interrupt his cast and you won't have to deal with that mechanic (since you can interrupt it every time he casts it by running through him). It allows one (or both) healers to stay in the center with the party the whole time.

As others in the thread stated, this will likely be the way it's healed in the future as there are no negatives (except that healers will need to dodge eruptions with everyone).

I'll gladly post the thread, but unsure if I'm able to link to the unofficial reddit on here.

Hope this helps everyone.

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I'm guessing you have never healed ifrit because I'm not sure why dodging infernal howl would make him any easier to solo heal? Cure III can be cast at a range. It makes no difference where the WHM is standing. The actual amount of healing required in the fight is what makes it difficult to solo heal.

This will be fun to try later with some of my friends. We want to see if it's possible to solo heal as a SCH. It's just for fun though, we can easily heal it normally.

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Originally Posted by Billzey

I'm guessing you have never healed ifrit because I'm not sure why dodging infernal howl would make him any easier to solo heal? Cure III can be cast at a range. It makes no difference where the WHM is standing. The actual amount of healing required in the fight is what makes it difficult to solo heal.

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A smart SCH can circumvent the raid damage with rouse+whispering dawn+succor. That should get you through the majority of nails damage. After that, its just a battle with the crazy spike damage on the tanks. I imagine it would be tough, but a good sch in a good party could probably do it.

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Originally Posted by Billzey

I'm guessing you have never healed ifrit because I'm not sure why dodging infernal howl would make him any easier to solo heal? Cure III can be cast at a range. It makes no difference where the WHM is standing. The actual amount of healing required in the fight is what makes it difficult to solo heal.

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I guess the fact that I have every EX weapon and am currently wearing the ifrit bangles on my lodestone means I've never beaten it. Nice assumption there. With no infernal howl you don't to rely on your DPS stacking so you can cure III from range during nail phases. It's also less damage to heal on yourself, or worrying about staying away from your party. If you don't understand why not having to deal with a damaging mechanic makes something easier, I'm not sure what to tell you. I'm not saying it's ground breaking, but it's something that allows you to bypass a mechanic that deals otherwise unavoidable damage. Why would that ever not help with solo healing or healing in general?

Being able to Medica I / II the group in solo heals during nails instead of having to repeatedly cast Cure III from range is much better on the MP as well since it's constant damage (from each nail breaking). That's not even accounting for if a SCH is solo healing it.

I wouldn't want to try this out, there is the possibility of it going horribly, horribly wrong. Like having everyone in PT get hurt by searing wind? Since you know, they stack at Ifrits' arse.

Not good to try this out.

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Originally Posted by JammerSidewinder

This will be fun to try later with some of my friends. We want to see if it's possible to solo heal as a SCH. It's just for fun though, we can easily heal it normally.

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Doubtful. the amount of healing needed is insane, especially phase 3. The tank healing requirement alone would be above a sch's power and only because whms can cure3 can you keep the tanks up long enough, to heal the team from nail breaking.

The only way I can see around it, is 3 brds with back to back soul voice ballad, with a sch spamming succor in the middle, or a smn that helps heal, with a lot of buff dps to make up the lack of damage.

neither of which would be consider "solo heal" as you're gimping everyone else to replace a healer.

Besides which, there's no point to solo heal ifrit. He would just enrage and kill you all.

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Originally Posted by kukurumei

Besides which, there's no point to solo heal ifrit. He would just enrage and kill you all.

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Agreed that there's not a super good benefit to solo healing it, as they generally finish at the same time a normal run would be. But this thread wasn't only about being able to solo healing it; if the healers focus target ifrit they can just avoid a damaging mechanic the whole fight. And it just makes the option to solo heal better if you WANTED to do so. Since from other threads it seems okay, here's a link to the thread and the video they took:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_fKYHiMnIc
http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...solo_healedoc/