Crystal tower and parties challenge- why not?

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Originally Posted by Onyxys

Dont tell me, that you want to be inside of the dungeon for hours. You want to clear it quick as anyone else.

I dont speak about speed runs, but about making dungeon more fun

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No problem.
Just do it that it get faster the more the people work together instead against each other.
The moment someone work against the alliance it should be a wipe. This would be real challenge.

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Originally Posted by Felis

No problem.
Just do it that it get faster the more the people work together instead against each other.
The moment someone work against the alliance it should be a wipe. This would be real challenge.

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Wipe or not wipe- yes, it is a challenge)

The best way to clear any group event is to work with your other players, not against them. If you see a party is struggling and your party is doing just fine, toss them a few extra heals or a raise to get them back on their feet, just for example.

I already see too many parties trying to "compete" with other parties in CT. The dungeon is 24 people vs. the enemies, not each party vs. each other. Anything to encourage parties bickering with each other even more than they do now isn't something I'd want to see.

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Originally Posted by Onyxys

1) Players will equip their best gear, but not their spiritbond gear
2) It will make dungeon more fun and interesting
3) Clearing the dungeon will be much faster
4) To achieve best result and to make balanced party for some such challenges players will create full party before using DF

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1) I'm entering with crafting accessories and still perform at 100%. I tank Iron Giants flawlessly (which is something many tanks manage to fail to do with full i90) and do all of my Tank-related jobs without any problems. My DPS doesn't suffer much either, because I think a few turns ahead on what I should do. Can you prove any party I'm in will be objective worse than any party you're in just because of my spiritbonding? Are you implying LotA has such a level of gear required that SBing with minimal responsability (as in not going FULL Militia either) should be really frowned upon? Don't make me laugh.

2) Your standards for fun seem to be related to the exact reasons many groups wipe for no reason: potential for bickering.

3) Yes, because we need to break the world record everytime, right? Because a 50 minute run is totally inconceivable, only 44:50 or less are acceptable LotA runs, right?

4) The best result is one where DRG/MNK loot does not appear if no one is looking for them and people do their jobs as an alliance, not as groups fighting. This is a raid, people are meant to work together. If in the future they make a "time attack" thing using parts of LotA (like Atomos) as maps, then they are supposed to work like you suggested.

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Originally Posted by Axlle10

Huh, i did not know they released Crystal Tower yet? Where did you get the next patch already? lol. Sorry, just me being anal about CT versus Labyrinth of the Ancients (LotA). lol

Its fine the way it is. if you have ever been in a bad Laby group you know exactly why difficulty should not be increased.

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A few months ago, actually. Here, read all about it!

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...44f9d3bcad5bf3

You're welcome

If they implemented this, I'd feel sorry for the guy who's running CT for the first time and keeps getting vote-kicked.