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    Crystal tower and parties challenge- why not?

    Greetings. Why not to add to some parts of CT a challenge? A part with Atomoses, a part with bomb in a center? We all try to be the first killers in this dungeons part- to kill Atomos faster than other 2 parties, for example? And as a reward for wining- some more ToM, for example or another prize. Even very special and rear prizes- to make a special rolling for winning party or common prize for all. MAking such in-dungeon competition between parties will lead to:
    1) Players will equip their best gear, but not their spiritbond gear
    2) It will make dungeon more fun and interesting
    3) Clearing the dungeon will be much faster
    4) To achieve best result and to make balanced party for some such challenges players will create full party before using DF

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Racing to kill the Batraals? That's cool, but that usually means you're ignoring your adds and thus killing off your two other parties and more than likely feeding the bomb too much and no matter how geared you are, constant add explosions ontop of the AoEs/direction attacks can and will kill off people pretty quickly if the healers end up dying
    Can be created a system of penalties, if party doesnt kill their bombs
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    Because racing in certain LoA sections doesn't exactly benefit anyone -

    First to beat Atomos? You tend to step off your platform and stay off of your platform making it harder for the remaining parties to kill their Atomos.

    Racing to kill the Batraals? That's cool, but that usually means you're ignoring your adds and thus killing off your two other parties and more than likely feeding the bomb too much and no matter how geared you are, constant add explosions ontop of the AoEs/direction attacks can and will kill off people pretty quickly if the healers end up dying.

    I get what you're trying to suggest, but LoA really isn't the best place to reward people for speed running - SE got rid of Speed Running for a reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Racing to kill the Batraals? That's cool, but that usually means you're ignoring your adds and thus killing off your two other parties and more than likely feeding the bomb too much and no matter how geared you are, constant add explosions ontop of the AoEs/direction attacks can and will kill off people pretty quickly if the healers end up dying
    Can be created a system of penalties, if party doesnt kill their bombs. To achieve best result and to make balanced party for some such challenges players will create full party before using DF
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    Last edited by Onyxys; 03-03-2014 at 12:24 AM.

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    oh A has LB2? well let's just leave the platform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowybell View Post
    oh A has LB2? well let's just leave the platform.
    Great penalty. Or just not create challenge for this part- it is simple) No need to create challenge for every CT-part
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    Huh, i did not know they released Crystal Tower yet? Where did you get the next patch already? lol. Sorry, just me being anal about CT versus Labyrinth of the Ancients (LotA). lol

    Its fine the way it is. if you have ever been in a bad Laby group you know exactly why difficulty should not be increased.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onyxys View Post
    1) Players will equip their best gear, but not their spiritbond gear
    Because god forbid people aren't doing a dungeon with 40 ilvls more than the requirement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Onyxys View Post
    Can be created a system of penalties, if party doesnt kill their bombs.
    Thats already in there. Its called a wipe. Everyone dies when it happens.

    It seems like you're just upset that you can't do LotA quickly. None of what you're suggesting will help with that. If you want to get through LotA quickly, then you should be asking for changes that promote cooperative play, not competitive. The fastest/best runs I've ever been in have been where all the alliances helped each other out and weren't competing against each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReaperT View Post
    It seems like you're just upset that you can't do LotA quickly. None of what you're suggesting will help with that. If you want to get through LotA quickly, then you should be asking for changes that promote cooperative play, not competitive. The fastest/best runs I've ever been in have been where all the alliances helped each other out and weren't competing against each other.
    Dont tell me, that you want to be inside of the dungeon for hours. You want to clear it quick as anyone else.

    I dont speak about speed runs, but about making dungeon more fun
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    Except, LotA was designed to be accessible for people in ilvl 50 gear. Being ilvl 50 doesn't necessarily mean you're spiritbonding or what not. What about players who just hit lvl 50? If such a system were to be implemented, what you'd see is alliances checking out all their party members gear before the run even starts and then kicking those that can't help them finish first in DPS races. It'd make the content completely inaccessible for low ilvl players. It's not going to make the dungeon more fun but rather, it'd make it WAY more annoying IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onyxys View Post
    Dont tell me, that you want to be inside of the dungeon for hours. You want to clear it quick as anyone else.

    I dont speak about speed runs, but about making dungeon more fun
    I'm not talking about speed runs or being inside the raid for hours either. I'm saying that something like this wouldn't make LotA more fun or faster. When you encourage competitive play in an environment where its very easy to sabotage everyone else, it just won't end well. We have enough trolling and flaming in LotA already. We do not need to encourage more of it.
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