It sucks that people are ruining the community like this

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Originally Posted by Dreadlockrasta

Had someone do this crap during Titan hm on my alt, this is why paid carries should be bannable offense.

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I still dream paid runners, once reported, lead to that entire group selling runs having their account terminated..

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Originally Posted by KamikazeMan

I get that he's desperate to make gil, but why waste people's time doing so? Is this a common thing in MMOs? ARR is the only MMO I ever really got into, so I wouldn't know. Have any of you experienced this kind of behavior?

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The guy is probably doing all he can to buy a FC House and is resorting to these methods. As much as it sucks, it's still 100% SE's fault for the insane FC housing prices. If the prices were fair, he wouldn't pull that crap while he was in there. lol I rhymed. ;)

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Originally Posted by Cegiana

The guy is probably doing all he can to buy a FC House and is resorting to these methods. As much as it sucks, it's still 100% SE's fault for the insane FC housing prices. If the prices were fair, he wouldn't pull that crap while he was in there. lol I rhymed. ;)

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People were selling primal runs well before FC housing prices were announced. Its important that we don't mix up feels from squares insane FC housing price points with basic human greed.

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Originally Posted by KamikazeMan

If blacklisting him means he can't join my party finder group, then I'd do it. I guess I'll experiment later to see if blacklisted people can join my PF groups.

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Nope he can still join.. sucks

Why should paying and selling for runs be a bannable offense? Unless it's for real money, it doesn't matter. The market for paid runs will dwindle in a couple of months anyway.

selling runs is fine, but joining a party to sabatoge it on purpose to promote selling runs isn't ok

Report him and FC.

Sadly reporting won't do anything. You can't prove beyond the benefit of doubt that he's just not a 'terribad player' who got carried to Ifrit. Even though you, I, and everyone else knows he's sabotaging the run, unless he directly says it in chat you can't prove he's doing it on purpose and SE can't/won't enforce anything. It's the same reason players who AFK'd pre kick function didn't get suspended or banned. =/

But this is different. Make it a team effort to report the bastard. You can't be the only ones doing it.

Beyond reasonable doubt should be all they need. They should have access to logs and such as well to prove it's intentional griefing.

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Originally Posted by Edellis

But this is different. Make it a team effort to report the bastard. You can't be the only ones doing it.

Beyond reasonable doubt should be all they need. They should have access to logs and such as well to prove it's intentional griefing.

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From the conversations I've had with a GM in the past, 'beyond reasonable doubt' doesn't matter. They can't ban someone with a chance of them being innocent. Imagine being a really bad player who got reported by 7+ people because you're so bad at a particular fight they assumed you were sabotaging them. For this reason alone the GM made it seem like they wouldn't/couldn't do anything since without 100% proof you risk punishing a legit player. They can't punish someone for their playstyle unless you can 100% prove they are grieving you on purpose (like them stupidly admitting it in chat).

I rather them just make selling runs against the TOS. Problem solved.