White Mage is Poorly designed compared to Scholar

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Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall

Yeah, it was definitely enough for a single cast.

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Scholar can afford to waste more mana. White mage can't. Changing medica 2 in this way "nerfed" our mana efficieny.

Scholar can spot heal people with fairy, physick and lustrate. If people are too low.

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Originally Posted by sharazisspecial

Scholar can afford to waste more mana. White mage can't. Scholar can spot heal people with fairy, physick and lustrate too.

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So you are saying that spamming an AoE heal of 150 potency is "affordable"?

Ok.

And what the hell, WHM can spot heal with other Heals as well, what's your point? That WHM is boring? I can definitely agree with that, but that's all.

I swear it's as if no scholar wants us to be fixed. At this point I would rather them just take all of our AOE heals, put them on SCH and in the meantime take out WHM and redesign it

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Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall

So you are saying that spamming an AoE heal of 150 potency is "affordable"?

Ok.

And what the hell, WHM can spot heal with other Heals as well, what's your point? That WHM is boring? I can definitely agree with that, but that's all.

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Im ignoring you now you haven't played white mage or done hard content most likely. Pointless to argue with you.

You cant see how spot healing 2-3 out of 8 people at once for 133 mana a gcd is good? Or topping up people with the fairy for free?

Your argument is that new medica 2 spread out healing over 30 seconds is awesome. But during that time the fairy could top up every non tank member with its heal.

Scholar get 20% mana return every minute. Constant well of free healing from the pet. They can afford to heal more. Especially if their is a bard in the party. Which their will be if you have a white mage and doing a heavy aoe fight like extreme primals and twintania.

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Originally Posted by vpc

I swear it's as if no scholar wants us to be fixed. At this point I would rather them just take all of our AOE heals, put them on SCH and in the meantime take out WHM and redesign it

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Buffing speed would give scholar less competition on their precious crit gear too... -.-

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Originally Posted by vpc

I swear it's as if no scholar wants us to be fixed. At this point I would rather them just take all of our AOE heals, put them on SCH and in the meantime take out WHM and redesign it

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Why would SCH want that?

We don't want any more AoE heals. That's WHM job. We cannot have everything - and this applies to WHMs as well.

Remember that when this game was released, SCH was considered sub-par. Then Scholars learned to play the class and it suddenly became awesome.

I am not saying it's your case, but maybe there are a lot of WHMs who just have to adapt to this Medica II change.

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Originally Posted by sharazisspecial

Im ignoring you now you haven't played white mage or done hard content most likely. Pointless to argue with you.

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Is Twintania considered hard content? Just to be sure.

Presence of Mind should either have it's recast reduced to 2 minutes or duration increased to 20 seconds. It's so stupid that such a near worthless CD (when compared to the others) has a 5 minute recast timer.

About Medica II changes, I think it's worse than it was before since it doesn't heal enough per tick anymore. T2's nodes' vacuum waves deal more damage than it heals and since it lasts twice as long, I can't use it if any new mobs will be spawning within 30 seconds. This is especially annoying since tanks don't look at their buff bars (or don't recognize the icon since I don't know theirs either) and just run in thinking it's a shield and then I take aggro to the whole group of monsters since I didn't think we'd finish the last fight as quickly as we did (Or it just seemed like the right usage for the skill).

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Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall

Why would SCH want that?
Remember that when this game was released, SCH was considered sub-par. Then Scholars learned to play the class and it suddenly became awesome.
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Scholar got buffed up the ass since release.
Noone did actual hard content on release where critical shields and lustrate make certain mechanics a joke.

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Originally Posted by Remilia_Nightfall

Why would SCH want that?

We don't want any more AoE heals. That's WHM job. We cannot have everything - and this applies to WHMs as well.

Remember that when this game was released, SCH was considered sub-par. Then Scholars learned to play the class and it suddenly became awesome.

I am not saying it's your case, but maybe there are a lot of WHMs who just have to adapt to this Medica II change.

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If SCH was the only healing class it would need those aoe heals :) Let's say put Lustrate on the GCD with a cast time. That is your BnB skill, would you be okay with adapting to it? Probably not. Medica 2 was our thing, and our aoe is the ONLY thing we have over sch (dont give me the better SS and Prot BS, it isn't even necessary to complete content). If they want us to be okay with the Medica 2 change, then they need to fix Shroud of Saints to offset it. Or, you know, just give us our old Medica 2 back. As of now I dont even use it unless Divine Seal is up and thats just for the lulz, Medica 1 far outclasses it now in terms of getting the job done/mana

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Originally Posted by sharazisspecial

Scholar got buffed up the ass since release.

Noone did actual hard content where shields make healing a joke.

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It did?

The only buff was the Lustrate going from 20% to 25%.

Everything else were fixes of things not working properly, since a good percentage of our healing output was not even under our control.