HM Titan Weapon/shield buffed to ilvl 80

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Originally Posted by Dyss

I like that point, which also they will have lvl 90 pvp weapons if you noticed, what will its stats be, and can it be used in PvE?

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I think PvP weapons will be useless in PvE cause they will probably have morale on them.

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Originally Posted by Itseotle

Exactly. The discussion should be are Extreme mode weapons better than Relic.

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Academic, probably. I bet you nobody but ilvl90 statics will have a prayer of clearing those. Look at requirements: average ilvl of 70. Titan will require a mere average of 57, and a group full of players meeting only the requirement is likely to fail. I expect the bare-minimum for Ifrit Extreme to be full ilvl90 equipment with ilvl70 melded accessories. Maybe relic+1 for second jobs will be replaced by primal weapons, but you'd have to luck into them as drops from your static, and if you're not that hardcore, then you can shove it.

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Originally Posted by Gamemako

Maybe relic+1 for second jobs will be replaced by primal weapons, but you'd have to luck into them as drops from your static, and if you're not that hardcore, then you can shove it.

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The iLv90 Primal Weapons come from a quest, not drops...

I have 3 relics atm for alt classes but I'm not gonna waste myth on +1ing them.

I'd much rather find a decent group and farm Titan for drops than repeating the relic quest over and over again and I'd rather try the extreme primals for the i90 weapon than wasting myth I could be using on my main.

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Originally Posted by Eardstapa

The iLv90 Primal Weapons come from a quest, not drops...

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You're right. Even better, they're unavailable to any job who can't complete the content, meaning few players without a relic+1 can get them. Vanity gear, go!

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Originally Posted by Dyss

I like that point, which also they will have lvl 90 pvp weapons if you noticed, what will its stats be, and can it be used in PvE?

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I'd say it's very likely that you can, the only problem with them would be that you can rest pretty assured they will have the pvp stat on them, so they'll be missing a stat in pve compared to pve weapons.

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Originally Posted by Ispen

I think PvP weapons will be useless in PvE cause they will probably have morale on them.

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Beat me to it lol. Though depending on what the other stats are, it may not be "useless." I'd be willing to lose a few points in a secondary stat to have a cooler looking weapon, but that's just me though.

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Originally Posted by Gamemako

You're right. Even better, they're unavailable to any job who can't complete the content, meaning few players without a relic+1 can get them. Vanity gear, go!

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I highly doubt you will need Relic Zenith (Gotta get used to calling them this now... Nah, screw it, +1) for the extreme primal fights, with maybe the exception of Ifrit seeing as how it may very well be a DPS race on the nails. Of course, we'll still see shouts, "LFG Garuda Extreme, must have full iLv90 gear!"

I do believe it is possible to clear it with the recommended iLvl. It's just people get too accustomed to overgearing stuff before clearing content which is not how "progression" should go. I'd welcome it with open arms if it is hard, probably this time round I can ride the "buy" runs to earn some gil for my housing.

I have no doubt it will be possible either, however, knowing how the community prefers to overgear content to make it easy... Well, we will see the vocal minority complaining about how things are far too easy yet again.

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Originally Posted by Ispen

I think PvP weapons will be useless in PvE cause they will probably have morale on them.

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Weapon damage is king in this game. While they may only be a stopgap for PvE players, they would be far from worthless. Likely one stat will take up the spot of something like Parry/Determination/ and instead be Morale. The weapon will likely have Vitality in the least.