FFXIV has lost it's magic

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

the main problem with these types of discussions is that some people do not realize that people in general do not have as much time to play MMORPGs, it is why the "WOW" type work so well.

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If WoW works for some of you, then go play "WoW". The sad truth is, people love Final Fantasy but those who don't care about the mythos of FF, those who never played a damn thing related to FF or FFXI can care less and that ruins the experience (a bit) for me. Reason why people from other MMOs are coming to FFXIV is because its easy like that 'other' game.

If this is the case, i'll be on and off the subscription ghost-train(/wink-wink for those who really are FF-fans) and go find a new challenge(/wink, ffxi and probably Dark Souls) but I'm still dieing to experince the stories of my favorite classes and how end-game here really feels.
Something about Dark Souls that reminds me about "the Dunes", can't put my finger on it! (spaces out)

The is something the whole world needs to experience! The only way is to be casual friendly i guess. LMAO!

Now on to more pressing matters. No where in the new event does it show you getting snow's hat or lightning's wig which makes me think the new hairs you unlock during the quests are going to be some BS at the new barber in 2.1

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

the main problem with these types of discussions is that some people do not realize that people in general do not have as much time to play MMORPGs, it is why the "WOW" type work so well.

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The WoW model works? Really? look at the mmo market currently.

Why has every single WoW clone failed hardcore or been forced to go f2p?

Why is this forums complaints mirroring all those games who went f2p currently?

Name 1 mmo that has not last more then 70% of subs in the first 2yrs in p2p since people adapted the WoW. (for this game to match XI it can only lose ~5% of its subs from its peak a year)

The WoW model has been proven to be a failure in the market. WoW is the only one out of about 20-30 mmos that have made it work. Think of all the BIG AAA mmos that have crashed and burned. Even now WoW is starting to bleed absurd amounts of subs. The more casual that game gets the more people it loses.

Copying WoW only works for a quick buck... the entire model is not sustainable. MMO MUST HAVE LONGEVITY. Casual content is by design short lived.

If people do not have enough time... those people need to expect to get left behind. THAT IS HOW IT SHOULD BE. Ultra casuals and casuals need to stop wanting handouts, it is ruining/has ruined the genre for the rest of us.

You ever think that maybe the reason the "magic" is gone is because you became older, more experienced and probably desensitized? Sure when I first started playing games it was a new experience and I was easily stimulated, but after years of playing I'm not going to get the same effect even when a new game comes out as I did when the entire experience was new. It's like horror movies. When I was young, a common monster movie with a werewolf popping up could have given me nightmares. Today, blood splatter, zombies eating human entrails alive with ear-piercing screams in an accurate depiction of hell, meh.

I, for one, never had that experience in FFXI of "danger" running through zones or the "magic" of encountering new things. I already had over 15 years of experience playing other games to use as a base to FFXI so the feeling was greatly diminished vs if it were one of the first games I've ever played. I got to Jeuno, first try, by myself, from the dunes. No aggro, no getting lost, no sneak/invis, on monk at level 18. Just from years of playing other games to have a reasonable understanding of how the mechanics of FFXI was to work.

The thrill is still there, but much less than before and does not last anywhere near as long just because I have already had that experience even if it isn't the same game.

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Originally Posted by Azurymber

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All of this is why I don't get the same enjoyment out of MMORPGs that I used to. I've given up hope on them ever being like that again though. It seems games are just different these days. What is popular and fun to most people now just isn't that fun to me.
I miss the danger and excitement and feeling of accomplishment I used to get from MMOs.

I do enjoy playing FFXIV - for what it is..
but I doubt it will ever be something great.. something that I could reminisce about.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._scheme_01.png
have to keep the silly goyims happy

Going to wait and listen to facts about how we're in a new age, and a FFXI-2 mmo will fail.

blah blah blah

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Originally Posted by ashikenshin

another ffxi-2 thread! whoopieeeeee

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Did you even read the OP? No one here wants xi-2.

3/10 nice troll

I think you just grew up. MMO's are just not as magical as they were before, after you realize how they worked.

I'm sure there are people playing now who feel ARR is a vast world of adventure and exploration.
There may be more they could have had to try to rouse that feeling, but it take A LOT to get that back if you've been playing since EQ and XI.
You can't go back and even if you could, you've got rose colored glasses about how it was back then.

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Originally Posted by Koren_Origins

You ever think that maybe the reason the "magic" is gone is because you became older, more experienced and probably desensitized?

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The thrill is still there, but much less than before and does not last anywhere near as long just because I have already had that experience even if it isn't the same game.

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Interestingly enough, XIV hooked me since B3 and I don't feel tired of it at all.

Some games just click with you, some may click but either take some time or the click fades away, and some... just not at all. Ye olde WoW never hooked me, Ragnarok used to make me busy for no more than 2 weeks... And I have been playing XIV everyday since B3.