Idea Concerning PvP

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Originally Posted by ashikenshin

there is pvp gear, there are pictures and it looks pretty badass. I don't know about your idea though. If you enjoy pvping then you will do it several times, if you do it several times you will get currency for gear, if you get gear you win more and you get more currency so you can get more gear.

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oh joy more badge of honor tier style gear.. earn your fuckin gear.. this badge clone project sucked ass in wow and it sucks ass hear.. if you cant do content to earn gear then you don't get to have it.. the carebear badge system is in insult to the entire gaming community.. lets go over a week in ffxiv. log in Monday do 10 wp log in Tuesday do turn 1-4 wait till next week and do it again.. sounds exactly like every other boring mmo that people are sick of.. I was really hoping that this badge gear system would have died with wow but it seems like that is in the future here.. its boring with no feeling of real work/reward.

having to have a separate set of armor just to fight another player is fuckin stupid... always has been.. from any viewpoint... I mean these developers are SOOOOO worried about immersion and realism... why would anyone collect one set of armor to kill everything and then another just to kill other adventurers? its just more wasted armory slots.. im seeing a downward plunge in the future.. hopefully it is entertaining long enough to last until eqn..

because being viable in pvp with gears earned in pve or the other way around is retarded on over 9000 levels.
work and earn for your gear(raids, rated arena), or go play single player games

pvp is supposed to be fun like this game was.. but it wont be.. because much like the pve portion to do anything is just a gear check. but that's fine lets make the entire game identical to wow.. which is losing half a million players every 6 months.. good idea. I thought they wanted this game to flourish but its a cash grab scheme same like a Korean mmo

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Can we apply your "I don't want to earn gear" suggestion to PvE too?

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they already did cry baby its called mythology/philosophy tombstones.. having 100 sets of gear is as stupid as your above comment is..

I better be able to pivot back stab or I'm not gonna bother.

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Originally Posted by MieyCyruuuus

Rating requirement solves that. Better people gets better gears.

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If you mean a system by which players are separated by PvP ilvl, then what does getting higher ilvl pvp gear even mean? You'd be doing exactly the same damage to a player in high level pvp gear (assuming equal gear) as you were when you both had lower ilvl pvp sets.
The higher player damage gets from base stats on the gear, the higher the defensive base stats needs to get to prevent a one shot.

PvP needs to be about personal skill and teamwork. Not about who has the best pvp set. Improve appearance, not stats. Let everyone know you're a PvP badass by looking amazing, Not by having better stats than the other team.

For example, if the Darklight appearance was for base pvp sets and the Coil appearance was for skilled players, then when you see someone in that gear you think *wow they must be good!* and not just *wow, they must of grinded a ton for that*

An ilvl progression system on pvp gear means there needs to be a reward even when you lose. Kinda like WoW pvp, where the losing side gets half as much Honor as the winning side so that even in defeat they can still progress their gear.
In a world where the only improvements to your gear was cosmetic, winning a match becomes a goal worth working towards, not like in other games where you can AFK your way through a hundred pvp rounds and STILL buy the best gear.
Want the best looking armor?
Earn it.

Rating = win%, not grind.

Wow this is news to me, the pvp in wow sucked for some reason. I enjoyed the crap out of it.

In vanilla wow you could be the best in battlegrounds with gear from blackwing lair. I used to be king with my pve gear and then they introduced pvp gear. And after that, my pve loving person kept losing to the pvp oriented people. The way is meant to be.

After that, you could only buy gear for your rank. We pvp'd the crap out of that game and got to marshall. (no sleep and multiple people taking turns with one character) It's not fun like that. After they introduced the badge of honor system it's a lot better. You may not like it because you like to torture yourself but for everyone else it rocks.

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Originally Posted by MieyCyruuuus

Rating = win%, not grind.

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They could still have a win/loss bracket system so people of like skill play against people of like skill.
Theres still room for abuse in that system though, especially with a progression based gear system, it's easy enough to tank your rating while super well geared and decimate the unfortunates who just barely got started.
That sort of system exists in WoWs Arena brackets. Didn't stop full S3 Tournament winners from disbanding a team and making a new one with a low rating so they get matched against fresh 70s back in Burning Crusade.

My point is that ilvl tiers of pvp gear is pointless. Having one set that upgrades cosmetically (This could be done by accumulating Win Tokens and turning them in for the next better looking set), with a DF that smart matches you with players of similar win percentages is the way to go.