Last Chance to Talk me out of Getting AF2 Chest instead of +1...

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Originally Posted by kro

I don't understand why people buy +1 head first. It forces you to wear a body piece that is greatly inferior to HDL and doesn't provide any immediate benefits in terms of overall stats. You should have bought +1 Body first and used Hoplite Circlet temporarily since that is a noticeable upgrade. In OP's case, get that +1 body asap so you can rid yourself of Militia Cuirass. Then, work on the weapon.

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wrong. using a af2 helmet and hoplite chest is the equivalent to using DL, with the exception of 1-2 stats, and different secondary stats. however, you are right in saying af2 chest and hoplite is better.

Huh, I could also use my 900 or so myth to replace my hoplite ring with the hero one and upgrade my hands...

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Originally Posted by dinantes

AF+1 Body it is!

A DPS friend had me nearly sold on the +1 Bravura, but since my main priority is staying alive the armor will have to come first.

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Good.

Our WAR in Turn 4 had the following observations:

1. He can easily hold AOE threat, but what he has a harder time with and has to optimize in more detail is holding AOE threat while maintaining enough TP for the rest of the fight. It's not just about raw AOE threat, per se. It's about how many resources you have to dump to hold it. However, he can get by ok with Flashes and a mana potion (for more Flashes). The result from that optimization as well as a general familiarity with our DPS output has allowed him to manage his TP with a relic, no +1.

2. What is harder to deal with is the raw damage intake, since we have him tank virtually every non-dreadnought critter in the place. For that, the chest upgrade is more critical.

3. What doesn't get as much attention, but is equally important, is not simply the WAR surviving or dying. What is critical is how much healer attention they get. Our healer can keep him up no problem ... unless they're healing someone tanking the Rook, and keeping up the main tank on the Dreadnought, and they spend that 1 GCD on the WAR and boom, 1.5 sec lagspike, double crit on the main tank and domino -> raid wipe.

The fact that the chest reduces healer attention regardless of whether the WAR dies or not also helps the case for the chest. Anyways, GL with your Coil.

looks like it doesnt matter anymore but I wouldn't get AF body cause Allagan drops from turn 1 and has the EXACT same stats. Meanwhile, the Allagan weapon drops from turn 5 and you are FAR less likely to get that.